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    Re: Obama Releases $3.4 Trillion Budget Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    It should be noted that while the Bush administration did not allocate funding within their budgets for the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, the Obama administration has (although I haven't reviewed this budget so I am not sure how much they have allocated)

    EDIT: I just checked the budget and the Department of Defense has been allocated $533.7 billion.
    Yes... and how much of that is for the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan?

    It should be noted that The DOD budget in FY2009 was $515.4B, so I'd have to wager that the answer to my question is "not a whole lot, if any".

    And, looking at the bigger picture --- so what?

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    Re: Obama Releases $3.4 Trillion Budget Plan

    Yes... and how much of that is for the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan?

    It should be noted that The DOD budget in FY2009 was $515.4B, so I'd have to wager that the answer to my question is "not a whole lot, if any".

    And, looking at the bigger picture --- so what?
    Yes, the DoD budget has only increased 4%, but I think it's significant that 1/6th of the entire 2010 fiscal year budget is spent on the DoD, when most are attacking him for spending so much on other things. I suppose I should have noted that in my last post.

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    Re: Obama Releases $3.4 Trillion Budget Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I thought Obama was bringing change. I don't call following in the footsteps of Bush spending, change. In fact Obama is far worse.
    Let's not jump the gun now. The potential for worse is definitely there, but give the guy some time to actually, you know, get past the crisis and see if he then has the ability to fix spending. Comparing the spending/deficit of Presidents Bush and Obama, when they are operating in two different sets of circumstances, will lead to errors of assumption.

    Note: I am not saying I agree with President Obama on spending, only that it is too early to see the end results of that spending, and that the comparison to President Bush is inaccurate due to the differing circumstances. I am highly concerned about the level of spending, and limited cuts, but we are 3 months into his 4 year term, he could fix his mistakes, maybe.
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    Re: Obama Releases $3.4 Trillion Budget Plan

    Damn, I thought I had seen it all under Bush. I guess I hadn't. This dwarfs Bush's spending. Damn Democrats. They believe they have to beat the Republicans in every area. What the hell kind of a twisted contest is that? LOL.
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    Re: Obama Releases $3.4 Trillion Budget Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    It should be noted that while the Bush administration did not allocate funding within their budgets for the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, the Obama administration has (although I haven't reviewed this budget so I am not sure how much they have allocated).

    EDIT: I just checked the budget and the Department of Defense has been allocated $533.7 billion, which is like 1/6 of the total budget.
    And this means what?

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    Re: Obama Releases $3.4 Trillion Budget Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    I have a pretty good feeling this spending coupled with the massive debt he is creating will be the primary cause of his downfall.

    His spending is ridiculous and will likely be used by politicians on both sides as an example of what they won't be doing. Or as something to compare their opponents spending to.
    But it is not the "spending" that is the outrage, it is the deliberate effort to avoid a debate on WHO will be paying for this largess.

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    Re: Obama Releases $3.4 Trillion Budget Plan

    And this means what?
    From my last post in this thread:

    Yes, the DoD budget has only increased 4%, but I think it's significant that 1/6th of the entire 2010 fiscal year budget is spent on the DoD, when most are attacking him for spending so much on other things. I suppose I should have noted that in my last post.

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    Re: Obama Releases $3.4 Trillion Budget Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Yes, the DoD budget has only increased 4%, but I think it's significant that 1/6th of the entire 2010 fiscal year budget is spent on the DoD, when most are attacking him for spending so much on other things. I suppose I should have noted that in my last post.
    It is hardly significant when the nationís defense is one of the primary purposes of the Federal Government.

    The REAL outrage is the same percent and perhaps even higher now, is spent paying INTEREST on the National DEBT for all the SOCIAL welfare programs implemented by decades of Democrat congresses which have done NOTHING to reduce poverty in this nation but instead creates a permanent dependent class of citizen that supports Democrats.

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    Re: Obama Releases $3.4 Trillion Budget Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Comparing the spending/deficit of Presidents Bush and Obama, when they are operating in two different sets of circumstances, will lead to errors of assumption.
    You are correct; Bush spent us into a $200 billion deficit dealing with 9-11, fighting two wars and the devastation of a Democrat run city that was ill prepared.

    Obama just throws the money at Liberal programs intended to increase the span and control of Government without even a debate as to how to pay for it all.

    Let's not also forget that while Bush was in office, Liberals chastised him for spending away the surplus for daring to allow/permit the citizens of this nation to keep MORE of their own money.

    While spending this nation into a $1.8 trillion hole, not one Liberal chastised him for a tax giveaway.

    Hypocrisy is the rule of the day when it comes to Democrats.

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    Re: Obama Releases $3.4 Trillion Budget Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    It is hardly significant when the nationís defense is one of the primary purposes of the Federal Government.

    The REAL outrage is the same percent and perhaps even higher now, is spent paying INTEREST on the National DEBT for all the SOCIAL welfare programs implemented by decades of Democrat congresses which have done NOTHING to reduce poverty in this nation but instead creates a permanent dependent class of citizen that supports Democrats.
    I think Khayembii is just giving everyone an FYI.
    Its important to realize that the war spending is included with this budget.

    Don't dump on him, he's being reasonable.
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