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    Re: GOP governor eyeing Senate run to be outed in film tomorrow

    Live by the sword. Die by the sword.

    From: Charlie Crist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Under Crist's leadership, Florida is the only state with an outright ban on gay adoption. Crist has said he opposes any change to the ban in Florida, he and other Republican leaders hold the position that a "traditional family provides the best environment for children".

    While running for governor in 2006, Crist stated that gay civil unions were "fine," but did not support gay marriage.

    On November 4, 2008, Florida voters approved Florida Amendment 2 (2008) by a margin of 62%-38%; an amendment which defines marriage as "the legal union of only one man and one woman as husband and wife". Crist stated he did not favor Republican Party funds being spent on passing the ban, but did lend his name to groups working in favor of the amendment.

    Prior to the vote, Crist was asked where he stood on the amendment and he stated: "I'll support it, I'll vote for it, move on... It's not top-tier for me, put it that way."
    If he were not an elected official I would say he deserves his privacy. But, as a Governor, and possibly Senator, with the power to enact, or at least influence, legislation, his constituents deserve to know the truth. I would feel the same if he were a Democrat.
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    Re: GOP governor eyeing Senate run to be outed in film tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    My issue with your issue of Hypocracy.

    Was Craig or Haggard attempting to get married to another man? If not, how was them being against gay marriage hypocritical?

    Did Craig or Haggard attempt to file complaint with a job because they were descriminated against because they were homosexual? If not, how was them being against such legislation hypocritical?

    Did Craig or Haggard believe that their homosexuality was a good thing that they were proud of and wasn't "sinful" or "wrong"? If not, how was them stating they believe that to be the case hypocritical?

    Unless you're telling me ALL homosexuals MUST be for ALL homosexual rights and think that ALL homosexuality is COMPLETELY good than I don't understand what exactly they did that was hypocritical.

    I never got the "hypocritical thing". I could understand the hypocritical thing if they were going "ALL GAYS SHOULD BE KILLED!" and then if it started happening they didn't kill themselves...but I didn't see them trying to do the things they were arguing against. I could very easily see a man like Haggard being a hugely self depricating person, someone performing actions that feel natural to his body but wholey unnatural to his mind. It is like some pedophiles or those that do incest who are disgusted by their actions and know its wrong but yet keep doing it. And, if that's the case, why is he a hypocrite for saying that he believes homosexuality to be wrong and evil if he thinks that the homosexual tendancies within himself are wrong and evil.

    I'm not saying I agree with all or even any of their stances, but I have never gotten the hypocritical argument here. This is like saying we shouldn't listen to any politician about their stances on murder or theft because they have gotten speeding tickets before or shop lifted something as a kid or had smokedp ot once or done some version of a minor crime at some point in their life.

    Frankly, I'm against forcefully outing ANYONE. I think its one of the lowest thing someone can do and I think its frankly abhorrent for anyone that claims to stand for personal rights and freedom to be in favor of people forcefully "exposing" people on a mass stage over something these people personally do not want to have made public and is frankly no ones ****ing business.
    The reason you do not get it is because it is a FABRICATED argument targeting.......REPUBLICANS.

    It is a low life tactic intended to impugn and attack the character of politicians the Left doesn't like and uses the public forum to embarrass and drive them from the political arena.

    It is a pathetic way of dealing with your political opponents and one that appears to be the standard MO among Liberals who wallow so deeply in their own hypocrisy that they believe theirs is justified.

    Look at the cases of homosexual Congressmen targeting pages. If it is a Conservative who has done NOTHING more than send weird e-mails; he is out. If it is a Democrat who actually had sex with underage pages, he is re-elected and given a chairman position.

    The hypocrisy here is how Dan always seems to selectively target Republicans for this "treatment" on DP, but rarely if ever cares when it happens on the Democrat side.

    Remember Foley? Well his replacement committed adultery, seems to be typical with the Democrats, and yet not a word about it in the media.

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    Re: GOP governor eyeing Senate run to be outed in film tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    It's not like Larry Craig where he is doing it in PUBLIC bathrooms.
    I am not a defender of Larry Craig by any stretch, I don't know enough about him, but let's keep the record straight here; he didn't DO anything in a restroom but tap a zealous undercover cop’s foot in the next stall.

    I think it is a little disingenuous that he be accused of GAY sex in a restroom when these were NOT the facts in his case.

    I think it is rather odd that one can be arrested for tapping someone's foot in a bathroom stall; I thought you had to at least attempt to engage in the act before you were arrested and that it had to be with a minor, not someone who is an adult. I am still struggling with what the crime he committed was and I am certainly not an advocate for gay sex.

    I guess this is what we get in a society where Democrats continue to lower the bar of evidence for the sake of impugning their opponents.

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    Re: GOP governor eyeing Senate run to be outed in film tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Live by the sword. Die by the sword.

    From: Charlie Crist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    If he were not an elected official I would say he deserves his privacy. But, as a Governor, and possibly Senator, with the power to enact, or at least influence, legislation, his constituents deserve to know the truth. I would feel the same if he were a Democrat.
    So this is the new LOW standard being held for "hypocrisy?"

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    Re: GOP governor eyeing Senate run to be outed in film tomorrow

    thought from the first time i saw him on tv.
    and i just dont care.
    I voted for him, and i am reasonably satisfied with his administration
    was happier with Jeb, but that may be attributed to the changes in the economy

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    Re: GOP governor eyeing Senate run to be outed in film tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Do your trolling in another thread. I am not in the mood for it today.
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    Re: GOP governor eyeing Senate run to be outed in film tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Charlie Crist? Gay? That's what is going to appear in the film "Outrage", which will be released and running in Landmark Theatres all across the US tomorrow.

    People here know me pretty well as someone who takes delight in seeing hypocritical buttheads in the Republican party outed. But Charlie Crist? This guy is not one of the moral pillars of society who attempts to tell everybody else how to live. He is a pretty tolerant guy.

    And this is where I draw the line. If Crist were being a hypocritical asshole, I would be laughing my ass off over this. However, he is not, and deserves to be left alone. Charlie Crist is not a Larry Craig, and IMHO, the movement to out as many secretly gay Republicans as possible has gone too far.

    There is a time for the outing of hypocritical politicians. It is when their own behavior is the opposite of the "moral code" they attempt to force on others. This is not one of those times. Crist should have been left alone. Instead, his political career is going to be ruined, and for what? Nothing. Nothing at all.

    You may be surprised that I am posting this, since I am known for doing a lot of gloating when a hypocritical politician is outed, especially a secretly gay politician who engages in gay bashing. I am not gloating here. In fact, I am quite angry. Since Crist was not attempting to force other people to live to certain standards, his own homosexuality is nobody's business but his own.

    Sometimes I find that people who out hypocritical politicians are assholes as big as the hypocritical politicians they are outing.

    Article is here.
    When you make claims like this, perhaps it is a good idea to point specifically where the "hypocrisy" is. Did he say gays are the anti-Christ?

    I don't see the hypocrisy unless of course you are of the mindset that Republicans cannot be gays without being hypocrites; but then this requires willful denial.

    Also, where is this GREAT hypocrisy and where is the outright admission that he is gay?

    Crist was “first” outed in a 2006 Palm Beach Post article by Bob Norman, prior to his election as governor.

    A young rising star in the Republican Party has boasted to witnesses of his sexual relationship with Charlie Crist, the frontrunner in the Florida governor’s race who has repeatedly denied that he is gay.

    The GOP staffer, 21-year-old Jason Wetherington, told friends at separate social functions in August that he had sex with Crist, according to two credible and independent sources who heard Wetherington make the claim first-hand.

    Wetherington, who recently worked as a field director for U.S. Senate candidate Katherine Harris and currently works for state representative Ellyn Bodganoff’s reelection campaign, also named a man whom he said is Crist’s long-term partner, a convicted thief named Bruce Carlton Jordan who also recently worked for Harris in her long-shot Senate bid.


    Who is this Jason Wetherington making all the claims? Perhaps an attention hound who spreads nasty rumors that the media swallows like pigs at a trough?

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    Then he contacted me. I learned that Wetherington, a dark-haired and good-looking former page in the state senate, had been Harris's southeast field director and had left the campaign after the primary to work for Bogdanoff.

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    Re: GOP governor eyeing Senate run to be outed in film tomorrow

    Of course he is gay..... worst kept secret evah. Not that it matters really, unless he is some how a hypocrite...
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    Re: GOP governor eyeing Senate run to be outed in film tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    I'm kind of torn on this. On one hand, I understand that politician should be outed, or a t least politically scathed, if he is hypocritical about gay marriage; however, I don't know if their privacy should be invaded to do it. It's not like Larry Craig where he is doing it in PUBLIC bathrooms. Crist, IF HE HAS HAD GAY RELATIONS at all, has to my knowledge, done that in the privacy of his bedroom; Therefore, why should anyone know about that, EVEN IF he is hypocritical?

    Because, if we can invade politicians' privacy in the name of finding hypocrisy, then who is next? Who else can have their privacy invaded just because someone SUPPOSES that another someone is a hypocrit?
    I understand what you are saying, except for one thing. Who he sleeps with does not impact you or me or anyone else. How he votes does. As long as he is not breaking any laws, he should be free to do as he pleases, and be as private as he pleases when not acting as governor. We should be choosing our politicians on where they stand on issues, and get out of the way of the rest of the legal stuff they do.

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