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    Re: Schwarzenegger seeks debate on marijuana legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    So in your diatribe searching for a purpose, do you think that ONLY Conservatives wish to keep pot illegal?

    How trite and typical yet consistent with most of your other uninformed diatribes about reality, politics and raising children.
    No, the point was that there are people who claim conservatism, but are in actuality big government statists. Missed that train again...I'll try to slow it down for you next time.
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    Re: Schwarzenegger seeks debate on marijuana legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I am not certain using illicit drugs is a Conservative ideal; however it is absolutely true that sucking smoke into one's lungs is a purely personal decision and if it does not affect those around you, by all means smoke!

    But my comments were about the irony of Liberals wanting to stop everyone from smoking and passing laws to put the cigarette industry out of business yet now, when strapped with the realities of their out of control spending, want to legalize pot, but not on principle, but purely to find another source of revenue.

    So the next LOGICAL step is to analyze what will happen if they indeed legalize pot and start to tax its use; but alas, in a debate like this, logic is the first victim.
    The Conservative ideal is to let the SMOKER decide for himself whether or not he wants to smoke. Smoking weed might not be a great ideal for you or me, but if you are Conservative, then you realize that what somebody else does is none of your business, and you support a person's right to do something, and also support his having to accept responsibility for his decision. To require regulation of his or her smoking or not smoking is the stuff that Liberal nanny states are made of.

    I bolded the first part of your statement, although you do clear the air in the second part, when you say "Yes, it is the smoker's business, and none of ours". I just wanted to emphasize the first because I hate nanny governments who want to look after me for my own good.
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    Re: Schwarzenegger seeks debate on marijuana legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, the point was that there are people who claim conservatism, but are in actuality big government statists. Missed that train again...I'll try to slow it down for you next time.
    In other words, your desperate anti-Conservative rhetoric had NOTHING to do with the thread topic again; thank you for the clarification, and as for your train comment, for you it is more along the lines of riding the slow bus.

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    Re: Schwarzenegger seeks debate on marijuana legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The Conservative ideal is to let the SMOKER decide for himself whether or not he wants to smoke. Smoking weed might not be a great ideal for you or me, but if you are Conservative, then you realize that what somebody else does is none of your business, and you support a person's right to do something, and also support his having to accept responsibility for his decision. To require regulation of his or her smoking or not smoking is the stuff that Liberal nanny states are made of.

    I bolded the first part of your statement, although you do clear the air in the second part, when you say "Yes, it is the smoker's business, and none of ours". I just wanted to emphasize the first because I hate nanny governments who want to look after me for my own good.
    I understand your point and angst about "nanny" governments; I feel the same. But my arguments are based in those realities and not this ideal that will never exist.

    All forms of stable Government will require some form of this "nanny" state you deride; that is a simple fact.

    Now, if they decide to legalize pot, that will be the new law and I will abide by it; but it is a profound and typical double standard I see with Liberal Democrats who on one hand deride the BIG nasty cigarette companies for killing their customers and pass laws that basically outlaw them, but then in the name of ever increasing needs to cover their spending would promote the legalization of pot so they can tax is as being ironic.

    Who do these politicians think will provide for all this “legally” packaged pot now?

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    Re: Schwarzenegger seeks debate on marijuana legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    In other words, your desperate anti-Conservative rhetoric had NOTHING to do with the thread topic again; thank you for the clarification, and as for your train comment, for you it is more along the lines of riding the slow bus.
    I was responding to Dan's posts. And that post wasn't anti-Conservative. It was anti-Conservative poser. Me thinks you protest too much.
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    Re: Schwarzenegger seeks debate on marijuana legalization

    Eh. I'll accept legalization with a grudge. I hate the drug and would like nothing more than for it to cease existing, but as long as that's not happening, and as long as an age limit is imposed, I can accept an action that will make people stop bitching about nothing.

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    Re: Schwarzenegger seeks debate on marijuana legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Eh. I'll accept legalization with a grudge. I hate the drug and would like nothing more than for it to cease existing, but as long as that's not happening, and as long as an age limit is imposed, I can accept an action that will make people stop bitching about nothing.
    People will bitch about having the munchies instead.
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    Re: Schwarzenegger seeks debate on marijuana legalization

    Why do we need a debate? It was made illegal based on falsehoods and it's been kept illegal thanks to the money our government makes from pharmaceutical companies. No more debates. Legalize it.
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    Re: Schwarzenegger seeks debate on marijuana legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Eh. I'll accept legalization with a grudge. I hate the drug and would like nothing more than for it to cease existing, but as long as that's not happening, and as long as an age limit is imposed, I can accept an action that will make people stop bitching about nothing.
    Marijuna is the cure for the stock market, im not even joking. How the fu.ck has no one spotted this. Either everyone on this forum is a fuc.king idiot, or im just a plane genius. I figured both though. Look, if Marijuana is legalized, and people smoke it, think about how much more food we will be buying as a result. Money will be pouring in left, right and centre. The stock market will go through the roof and naturally, through drugs, we will gain loads of confidence in the market. The catering sector is the cute for this economic meltdown. How do you think the meltdown even occured? Why not before? Because there has never been so little people smoking weed, thats why. Back during the great depression, if our great grandfathers had any sense, they would have legalized weed and essentially ended the depression the comming week. If obama does this, all this recession nonsense ends.

    I hope he legalizes.
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    Re: Schwarzenegger seeks debate on marijuana legalization

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Marijuna is the cure for the stock market, im not even joking. How the fu.ck has no one spotted this. Either everyone on this forum is a fuc.king idiot, or im just a plane genius. I figured both though. Look, if Marijuana is legalized, and people smoke it, think about how much more food we will be buying as a result. Money will be pouring in left, right and centre. The stock market will go through the roof and naturally, through drugs, we will gain loads of confidence in the market. The catering sector is the cute for this economic meltdown. How do you think the meltdown even occured? Why not before? Because there has never been so little people smoking weed, thats why. Back during the great depression, if our great grandfathers had any sense, they would have legalized weed and essentially ended the depression the comming week. If obama does this, all this recession nonsense ends.

    I hope he legalizes.
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