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    Re: Obama’s Plan on Corporate Taxes Unnerves the Indian Outsourcing Industry

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I wouldn't go so far as to say they are un-American, however, I don't think they should benefit from it by tax breaks and other corporate benefits for from the U.S. government if they do it.

    I hate outsourcing with a passion, but I don't think it is un-American, I think it is capitalistic and selfish.
    Outsourcing should automatically terminate all tax breaks and add an additional 25% to the taxes which must be paid by the offending corporate scumsuckers.

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    Re: Obama’s Plan on Corporate Taxes Unnerves the Indian Outsourcing Industry

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Outsourcing should automatically terminate all tax breaks and add an additional 25% to the taxes which must be paid by the offending corporate scumsuckers.
    How do you define "outsourcing" and how do you propose to measure it within individual corporations?
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    Re: Obama’s Plan on Corporate Taxes Unnerves the Indian Outsourcing Industry

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Whatever. Americans have the right to OWN property. If they're not allowed to make decisions regarding it's use, they don't "own" it. It's perfectly American to allow people to make their own business choices.
    Putting America at the mercy of other nations by shipping all our manufacturing jobs is un-American.
    It's perfectly un-American to deny them that freedom.
    It not un-American to impose tariffs to protect jobs and allow American companies to be able to compete with foriegn companies(outsourced companies are no longer American)


    How about starting with the ones you want imposed preventing outsourcing?

    Tariffs and taxes do not prevent outsourcing. They may discourage outsourcing but they certianly do not prevent it.

    Then we can move on to silly regulations and taxes. There's plenty.
    Are you able to cite those regulations and taxes?

    Yes. US labor laws are a hindrance.
    Which ones,any sources?
    The Messiah signed into law a silly bill guaranteeing "equal pay for equal work",
    What is wrong paying two men who have worked the same number of years and done the same amount of work equal pay?

    as if, first off, the agreements between an employer and employee aren't their private business, and secondly,
    These wage laws are to ensure we do not have Andrew Carnige steel workers wages. Because if employers though out the country all started paying wages of a dollar or less then you really wouldn't have a choice to refuse if you were in dire need of work.

    Labor works on the supply demand curve when employers are allowed to have equal say in that curve.
    Employers wish to expand their supply of labor through outsourcing and illegal immigration so they can justify not paying a man his worth for his work.

    Employers are not allowed to permanently replace workers who refuse to work, aka strikers, for example.
    Unions do serve some good,grant it a lot of unions have gotten greedy, there is no reason why a person who is in a job that is not a risk to his health needs health insurance,especially for those who do not work for the company.


    No. Clearly it's twice as expensive to run manufacturing enterprises and telephone service-related functions in China and India, that's why business outsource to those places.
    No ,those companies have outsourced because labor is cheaper. It why dishonest companies hire illegals,its to pocket more money by cutting corners.

    You are aware that turtles are ecologically successfull animals only in extremely narrow niches, right?
    Again those companies seemed to be doing just fine before WTO.
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    Re: Obama’s Plan on Corporate Taxes Unnerves the Indian Outsourcing Industry

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Outsourcing should automatically terminate all tax breaks and add an additional 25% to the taxes which must be paid by the offending corporate scumsuckers.
    So you'd rather have an American firm fire all of its workers and shut down rather than have them fire some and outsource some of the work?
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    Re: Obama’s Plan on Corporate Taxes Unnerves the Indian Outsourcing Industry

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Microsoft's prices are already outrageous. Microsoft's prices didn't drop when they outsourced tech support; therefore, those jobs can return to the United States and Microsoft has no reason to raise prices.
    So the government should interfere and tell firms that they cannot sell a product a prices people are willing to pay for?

    Although --- Dell, Gateway, ect ... should be forced to keep computer production in the United States.
    So you're willing to pay maybe two to three times the price for a computer?
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    Re: Obama’s Plan on Corporate Taxes Unnerves the Indian Outsourcing Industry

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It is completely anti-American to allow companies to outsource in the first place.
    So it's anti-American to provide large returns to American shareholders?

    Outsourcing ensures that we will be a nation that doesn't make anything even our own weapons and will be at the mercy of other countries.
    Incorrect. Outsource ensures that countries don't produce goods and services that they have disadvantages in. Last I checked, America is still very good in R&D which is the backbone of the defense industry.

    What oppressive rules and regulations are these?
    The ones you are calling for.

    Any documentation to show the difference between the overhead and taxes between here and India or here and China? What so-called oppressive regulations are there that somehow kept companies from surviving before outsourcing? IS there any documentation to show that these companies were doing miserable before companies started outsourcing?
    overhead and taxes are relatively minor. The issue is wages.

    The solution is to get out of world trade,companies seemed to be doing just fine before WTO.
    So you're willing to pay much more for clothes, computers, and food? You do realize that the WTO enforces equal terms for American exports no? That American steel industries have used the WTO to enforce equal play fields?
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    Re: Obama’s Plan on Corporate Taxes Unnerves the Indian Outsourcing Industry

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    How do you define "outsourcing" and how do you propose to measure it within individual corporations?
    Any company that has sent jobs once held by Americans overseas is guilty of outsourcing.

    Any company outsourcing jobs to countries other than the United States must be forced to lose all tax breaks and pay a 25% outsourcing penalty.

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    Re: Obama’s Plan on Corporate Taxes Unnerves the Indian Outsourcing Industry

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    So the government should interfere and tell firms that they cannot sell a product a prices people are willing to pay for?
    Again ... I WAS TALKING ABOUT TECHNICAL SUPPORT AND CUSTOMER SERVICE.

    I cannot see why paying A+ certified Americans to do the work that non-certified 3rd worlders are doing is a bad thing.

    Big business doesn't want to pay Americans a fair wage --- this is bull****. If these businesses are worried about execessive wages, THEY CAN GIVING THEIR EXECUTIVES OUTRAGEOUS SALARIES AND BENEFITS.

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    So you're willing to pay maybe two to three times the price for a computer?
    Yet more republican threats and rhetoric. Republicans always spout off about price hikes when their salaries and bonues are threatened.

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    Re: Obama’s Plan on Corporate Taxes Unnerves the Indian Outsourcing Industry

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Any company that has sent jobs once held by Americans overseas is guilty of outsourcing.
    What if a company fires their American "communications representatives" and hires some Indian "communications associates"? How do you determine if the job was once held by Americans?

    Even if they have the same title, that doesn't mean anything. Most outsourced jobs serve the local market. For example, if Wal-Mart shuts down an unprofitable store in Milwaukee and opens a new store in Mumbai - staffed by Indians, run by Indians, serving mainly Indian customers - is that outsourcing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader
    Any company outsourcing jobs to countries other than the United States must be forced to lose all tax breaks and pay a 25% outsourcing penalty.
    That is retarded, unenforceable, and would result in other countries retaliating, making ALL nations worse off.
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    Re: Obama’s Plan on Corporate Taxes Unnerves the Indian Outsourcing Industry

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    What if a company fires their American "communications representatives" and hires some Indian "communications associates"? How do you determine if the job was once held by Americans?
    The fact that they fired an American and hired an Indian in India to do this job makes it outsourcing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Even if they have the same title, that doesn't mean anything. Most outsourced jobs serve the local market. For example, if Wal-Mart shuts down an unprofitable store in Milwaukee and opens a new store in Mumbai - staffed by Indians, run by Indians, serving mainly Indian customers - is that outsourcing?
    If the store is in India, then having Indian employees in NOT outsourcing.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    That is retarded, unenforceable, and would result in other countries retaliating, making ALL nations worse off.
    No, it's not. It would force big businesses to return outsourced jobs to America. This would help the American ecomony recover by providing employment (which provides spendable income) to unemployed Americans.

    It will NOT make all nations worse off. That is bull**** Republican rhetoric.

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