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    Re: Obama’s Plan on Corporate Taxes Unnerves the Indian Outsourcing Industry

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Did he say this was going to increase jobs?
    I think that's the clear implication when he talks about companies who create jobs in Bangalore rather than Buffalo. However, this plan will not create jobs in either.

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron
    I dont see that outcome from this plan. It appears to me to be more about seeking increased revenues. After the first quarters pointless binge spending spree we will be in dire need of revenues.
    If that's the case, there are better places to increase taxation than the corporate tax. The income tax and gasoline tax come to mind. However, if we must have a corporate tax at all, it should be applied across the board, rather than punishing certain companies for doing what is profitable.
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    Re: Obama’s Plan on Corporate Taxes Unnerves the Indian Outsourcing Industry

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Man, you need to inform yourself before making off the wall emotional claims.

    The cost of living in these places is way different than in the U.S. that and would you rather work for $4 day and eat or not work and not eat.

    Another thing you can do instead of working for $4 a day is rummage through garbage and hope to get enough from scrap to feed yourself.
    Lets hope you don't get a cut with an infection.
    You forgot the option of calling daddy Obama and him making your neighbor pay for you to take your family to

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    Re: Obama’s Plan on Corporate Taxes Unnerves the Indian Outsourcing Industry

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I think that's the clear implication when he talks about companies who create jobs in Bangalore rather than Buffalo. However, this plan will not create jobs in either.
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    I believe you are exactly correct. This is merely more presidential theatre.

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    A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing


    I vote campaign contributions should be taxed fully and considered income..
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    Re: Obama’s Plan on Corporate Taxes Unnerves the Indian Outsourcing Industry

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    The right is against it because it means they will have to pay Americans a living wage for those jobs. They don't want to do that when they can pay Hajeet in Bangalore $1.75 per week for the same work.

    In a word, they are greedy and don't want to share.

    They get ZERO sympathy. I say make the ****ers pay Americans to do those jobs.

    Lets fix our economy before we subsidize the economies of other countries.
    Unfortunately, a "living wage" (which is a VERY debatable term) does not correspond to the amount of labor that current America wishes to put forth. If we really did pay a "living wage" as you call it for everything made in America then you would see prices on everything quadruple overnight.

    American "greed" extends beyond the white collar CEO's way into the greedy blue collars who expect money and benefits far in excess of what they produce.

    Meanwhile the guy in Pakistan who used to be able to pay his family on a quarter of what an American made is now considering "freedom fighting" for fun and profit.


    But here's the truth. This "outsourcing" stuff is a witchhunt. Most labor jobs are slowly replaced by automation which has put more people out of work than any outsourcing ever has. Outsourcing itself is often confused with "offshoring" instead of the proper term "consolidation". Closing a plant and consolidating work to a larger plant is common during economic hard times. My brother is currently facing that as they are considering layoffs once again at the Reynolds Metals aluminum bauxite plant where he works. No, its the easy offshoring of IT related jobs that everyone points to these days. But then a computer program doesn't speak to you with an accent. Unless.....all your bases, are belong to us!
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    Re: Obama’s Plan on Corporate Taxes Unnerves the Indian Outsourcing Industry

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    yeah, whatever.

    Obama is a socialist and if he thought he wasn't promoting socialism, he wouldn't be doing it.

    The reality is that free men don't need permission from their government to business with other free men.

    The reality is that using the tax code to punish behavior, as people on this thread propose, is the most certain way of forcing whole businesses off shore.

    Then what?
    Since when are the Chinese people free?

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    Re: Obama’s Plan on Corporate Taxes Unnerves the Indian Outsourcing Industry

    People blame domestic U.S. regulations for 'forcing' companies to go overseas, but the main reason they do so is cheap labour. Are we now suggesting that U.S. labour laws, a staple of Western democracy, are a hinderance? The hinderance is globalization which allows company's to bypass their domestic responsibilities and take their stake elsewhere. Labour works on the supply/demand curve just like commodities, and companies will go where the price is lowest to suit their bottom line.

    Just like domestic consumers will pay $100 for the foreign made t.v., companies will pay less for the foreign labour. They don't have the patriotic buy-American values that Obama thinks Americans should have. They are businesses with a status quo.

    To me the taxation policy is the government trying to have its cake and eat it too. They can't outsource, and if they remain domestic they will lose profit. It's lose-lose. Even though his idea is to protect American economy, it's going to prevent newcomers from wanting to develop their businesses in it.

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    Re: Obama’s Plan on Corporate Taxes Unnerves the Indian Outsourcing Industry

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Makes perfect sense to me.
    Damaging the American economy to make a profit makes perfect sense to greedy corporate scumbags and their supporters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Nope. "Greed" is the desire for unearned wealth, like a socialist. A capitalist seeking the best labor environment for his endeavors is being fiscally prudent. Do you shop for clothes and food at the most expensive markets in town? No? You must be greedy and unwilling to share, by your definition.
    WRONG. That is far right wing, big business sellout/stooge, republican rhetoric.

    Quit making excuses for the damage big business has done to the American economy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Why should they?
    Because they are responsible for ****ing up the economy so they can get larger bonuses and better perks. This is UNACCEPTABLE.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Yes, let's do it your way. That'll fix the economy but good!
    Indeed. Americans will be put to work --- unemployment WILL GO DOWN ... even if big business does not like the cost!

    Please spare us your pro-business anti-American rhetoric.

    You should be ashamed of yourself.

    People like you are responsible for aiding in the destruction of the American economy.

    Shame on you and those you support.

    I hope you lose your job and get forced to live in the ****hole economy you helped create.

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    Re: Obama’s Plan on Corporate Taxes Unnerves the Indian Outsourcing Industry

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    People blame domestic U.S. regulations for 'forcing' companies to go overseas, but the main reason they do so is cheap labour. Are we now suggesting that U.S. labour laws, a staple of Western democracy, are a hinderance? The hinderance is globalization which allows company's to bypass their domestic responsibilities and take their stake elsewhere. Labour works on the supply/demand curve just like commodities, and companies will go where the price is lowest to suit their bottom line.

    Just like domestic consumers will pay $100 for the foreign made t.v., companies will pay less for the foreign labour. They don't have the patriotic buy-American values that Obama thinks Americans should have. They are businesses with a status quo.

    To me the taxation policy is the government trying to have its cake and eat it too. They can't outsource, and if they remain domestic they will lose profit. It's lose-lose. Even though his idea is to protect American economy, it's going to prevent newcomers from wanting to develop their businesses in it.

    You know what? Until the damage THOSE COMPANIES DID TO THE ECONOMY IS REPAIRED --- **** THEIR PROFITS.

    They can pay the price for repairing damage they are responsible for causing.

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    Re: Obama’s Plan on Corporate Taxes Unnerves the Indian Outsourcing Industry

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    You know what? Until the damage THOSE COMPANIES DID TO THE ECONOMY IS REPAIRED --- **** THEIR PROFITS.

    They can pay the price for repairing damage they are responsible for causing.
    Econ101 FAIL

    A company cannot damage an economy. It can damage itself, and if it's really big the economy might have some temporary problems as it adjusts. But it cannot consciously harm an economy and has no incentive to anyways.

    So by that logic, big companies that fail are evil. We must punish them by... rewarding them and keeping them afloat.

    Your irrational hatred of corporatism is, however, noted.

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    Re: Obama’s Plan on Corporate Taxes Unnerves the Indian Outsourcing Industry

    Quote Originally Posted by Keorythe View Post
    Unfortunately, a "living wage" (which is a VERY debatable term) does not correspond to the amount of labor that current America wishes to put forth. If we really did pay a "living wage" as you call it for everything made in America then you would see prices on everything quadruple overnight.

    American "greed" extends beyond the white collar CEO's way into the greedy blue collars who expect money and benefits far in excess of what they produce.

    Meanwhile the guy in Pakistan who used to be able to pay his family on a quarter of what an American made is now considering "freedom fighting" for fun and profit.


    But here's the truth. This "outsourcing" stuff is a witchhunt. Most labor jobs are slowly replaced by automation which has put more people out of work than any outsourcing ever has. Outsourcing itself is often confused with "offshoring" instead of the proper term "consolidation". Closing a plant and consolidating work to a larger plant is common during economic hard times. My brother is currently facing that as they are considering layoffs once again at the Reynolds Metals aluminum bauxite plant where he works. No, its the easy offshoring of IT related jobs that everyone points to these days. But then a computer program doesn't speak to you with an accent. Unless.....all your bases, are belong to us!

    Yep more pro-business bull****.

    Computer tech support jobs WILL NOT be replaced by automation. Those jobs belong in the United States.... not in bum **** India or the slums of Manilla.

    Quit screaming witchunt because you and your greedy buddies don't like losing profits so that Americans have jobs.

    Your buddies are responsible for the economy being what it is. They created this issue with their greed-based outsourcing.

    There are THOUSANDS OF JOBS that should never have been outsourced. People like you and the big executive scumbags who are flying around in corporate jets are responsible for the economy being in shambles.

    Pardon me for not giving a flying **** if some fat cat CEO **** tool and his stooges do not get a bonus.

    **** THEM.

    The American people come first. Big business can stop ruining the economy with their greed.

    If fixing the economy means a bunch of overpaid CEO ****bags lose profits and or a bonus, TOO ****ING BAD.

    They made their bad and they can ****ing sleep in it.

    You should focus on being an American and give up being a big business stooge.

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