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    Re: Arabs revising peace plan to gain Israel backing

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    A bunch of terminology mumbo jumbo that means diddly.
    This is the same bull**** you always pull when people use words you don't comprehend. "Oh your smart talky don't mean squat to me!"

    You're a joke.
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    Re: Arabs revising peace plan to gain Israel backing

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    And how much difference has all that whining and crying made in the last 40 years ?

    thats right, , ,

    NONE
    It hasn't had to make any difference, the fact has never changed that Israel is an occupier of land that belongs to other nations. The majority of the world routinely recognizes this fact. It's why there is so much whining and crying I suppose. But aren't you the guy who pusses up when it comes to someone is on your land, even when they have a lawful reason to be there?

    Yeah, that IS you!
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    Re: Arabs revising peace plan to gain Israel backing

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    belongs to other nations.
    In what real way ?

    I say that Golan belongs to Isreal and cite the IDF's control of the area, and the litany of Syrian misbehavior that preceded it as my proof.

    What evidence, beyond blather, is on your side of discussion ?

    The blather, by the way, is canceled out by the misbehavior, and what we are left with is the facts on the ground, that Golan is Israel.

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    Re: Arabs revising peace plan to gain Israel backing

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    But aren't you the guy who pusses up when it comes to someone is on your land, even when they have a lawful reason to be there?

    Yeah, that IS you!
    People with lawful reasons can provide warrants upon request.

    Go ahead and open an old argument where I stomped you BarelyaMan.

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    Re: Arabs revising peace plan to gain Israel backing

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    It makes perfect sense as your statistics are by district not by the partition borders.
    My stats were from 1946 and for what is now Israel, so it is perfectly clears yours were very wrong.

    But anyway enough I told CC I would no longer argue about this.
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    Re: Arabs revising peace plan to gain Israel backing

    24 hours later. Typical ME thread. Nothing of substance, just silly arguing about who owns what based on what treaty and whose fault is it for why things are the way they are.

    Let me know when y'all are done.
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    Re: Arabs revising peace plan to gain Israel backing

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    It hasn't had to make any difference, the fact has never changed that Israel is an occupier of land that belongs to other nations.
    Israel just didn't go out and scoop up people's land.

    Many of you folks here tend to forget or not mention that.

    Countries attacked Israel, got their ass handed to them, and lost land.

    Some of these nations like Egypt and Jordan, made their peace with Israel.

    They received ALL of their land back.

    Syria and Palestine have never negotiated a peace treaty with Israel.

    Until they do, we will continue to occupy territories lost in war.

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    Re: Arabs revising peace plan to gain Israel backing

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Israel just didn't go out and scoop up people's land.

    Many of you folks here tend to forget or not mention that.

    Countries attacked Israel, got their ass handed to them, and lost land.

    Some of these nations like Egypt and Jordan, made their peace with Israel.

    They received ALL of their land back.

    Syria and Palestine have never negotiated a peace treaty with Israel.

    Until they do, we will continue to occupy territories lost in war.
    Tashah, you have missed my point. I never said Israel just arbitrarily invaded and took land. The point that I was making is that returning occupied lands, regardless of why they were occupied, isn't an actual sacrifice per se. The argument spilled into this "the land is Israels forever because they won it in a war." No, it's not. Israel occupied that land as a strategic buffer so that they could have some measure of security for their citizens in Israel proper. I fully understand and appreciate this. But it still doesn't mean Israel owns the land.

    My original intent here was to question the logic that Israel puling back to the pre-67 borders was not a sacrifice as was claimed by someone else. It is eliminating that strategic security buffer, but the theory (and I know it's only a theory) that this might somehow restore peace, or lend to that anyway, would insinuate that the need for that buffer would be gone. Look I know it's not very probable, but I have to maintain some hope that there is a solution for peace in the region. As you pointed out, Egypt and Jordan made their peace with Israel. Palestine and Syria are different situations, I realize this. But still, I think it's possible. All I'm getting at is that it would be a worthwhile trade for real peace. If peace could be had.

    Peace.
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    Re: Arabs revising peace plan to gain Israel backing

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Israel just didn't go out and scoop up people's land.

    Many of you folks here tend to forget or not mention that.

    Countries attacked Israel, got their ass handed to them, and lost land.

    Some of these nations like Egypt and Jordan, made their peace with Israel.

    They received ALL of their land back.

    Syria and Palestine have never negotiated a peace treaty with Israel.

    Until they do, we will continue to occupy territories lost in war.
    I agree with you. But the difference between you and voidwar is that you recognize yes, Israel does occupy land and does not as a matter of fact own them. The Jews shouldnt give Golan back until Syria and Palestine make there peace with Israel, but im not willing to say the land occupied by Israel is therefore theres, but im definetly not going to say they shouldnt be occupying it, they pushed there luck, and the Israeli's kicked some arse. I fully respect that. They made the first move, not the Jews.

    Tashah, you as a soldier of the IDF fully have my support on the issue. Its good for once to see the Jews be able to defend themselves within there own soviergn. It makes a change from the usual patterns of history. Regardles if i think Golan is being occupied rightfully or not, theres no denying it doesnt belong to Israel.
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    Re: Arabs revising peace plan to gain Israel backing

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    In what real way ?

    I say that Golan belongs to Isreal and cite the IDF's control of the area, and the litany of Syrian misbehavior that preceded it as my proof.

    What evidence, beyond blather, is on your side of discussion ?

    The blather, by the way, is canceled out by the misbehavior, and what we are left with is the facts on the ground, that Golan is Israel.
    More crap. Your interpreting the present how you want it to be interpreted, and rewriting the past. Please cease your nonsense.
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