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    Re: DC approves same-sex marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Majority opinion is a funny thing, isn't it?

    Interracial Marriage

    Opposition to interracial marriage was stronger in the 1960s than opposition to gay marriage is today.

    I think most of us would say we've made progress.

    So your saying majority opinion changes? No argument there.

    Although, I would like the actual poll, rather than just a cop-out. Like, how many people disapproved of it at the time?

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    Re: DC approves same-sex marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Slavery is over? Hmmm...
    You might want to read the constitution, there've been a few amendments added since it's signing that just might be worth your while.

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    Re: DC approves same-sex marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    So your saying majority opinion changes? No argument there.

    Although, I would like the actual poll, rather than just a cop-out. Like, how many people disapproved of it at the time?
    Here's the polling data from Gallup.

    Do you believe the majority of Americans were correct in 1958 in their opinion on interracial marriage? Or was it possible they were misguided?

    Polling data.


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    Re: DC approves same-sex marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Grateful Heart View Post
    Here's the polling data from Gallup.

    Do you believe the majority of Americans were correct in 1958 in their opinion on interracial marriage? Or was it possible they were misguided?

    Polling data.

    Huh. Interesting poll.

    I guess that's just one flaw of democracy that nobody's been able to fix though. It wouldn't be any better if there were some sort of elite class looking over the population, since pretty much everyone has an equal capacity to be misguided, even if it's on different issues with different people.

    It's also interesting to note that, as far as I can tell, there's less people in 1958 who support interracial marriage than the black population- which means both races must have been equally opposed to it.
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    Re: DC approves same-sex marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It's funny: Slavery didn't start in America, but it sure ENDED in America.
    Abolition:
    England 1833
    America 1863

    Technically I suppose you are correct that slavery IN AMERICA ended, but if you were implying that somehow America ended or even was a major factor in the beginning of the abolitionist movement is just wrong.
    Affiant further sayeth not.

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    Re: DC approves same-sex marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    WRONG


    Please, please, please, read my post again. Obviously you didn't read. My idea of "majority opinion" does not apply because the majority of people had NO OPINION on slavery at the time. prior to the 1800's, the only people that cared about slavery were the slaver owners; therefore, they had their way untill someone in the north actually thought about slavery as an issue.

    Gay marriage is different, most people have an opiniion, and lo and behold, it's against gay marriage.
    I'm sorry but I'm not sure if anyone is buying the idea that they didn't have an opinion on it. Seriously? That's what you are saying? People were being OWNED and you don't have an opinion on it? BS.

    Besides, the point I was making was that majority opinion has nothing to do with what is right and wrong if you believe in basic human rights.
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    Re: DC approves same-sex marriage law

    Quote Originally Posted by Indy View Post
    Abolition:
    England 1833
    America 1863

    Technically I suppose you are correct that slavery IN AMERICA ended, but if you were implying that somehow America ended or even was a major factor in the beginning of the abolitionist movement is just wrong.
    I'm not sure how comparing abolition of slavery in England, which for all practical purposes never really existed there in the first place, much less on any significant institutionalized basis, supports your conclusion that America was not a major factor in the beginning of the abolitionist movement. The Northwest Ordinance of 1787 banned slavery in the new territories. Quakers and other anti-slavery groups promoted abolitionist ideas since the earliest colonial days. So yes... America did play a significant factor in the abolitionist movement.

    We had to fight a bloody civil war to finally end it. England did not.


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    Re: DC approves same-sex marriage law

    I think it is pretty sad that some people feel so threatened by gay marriage.

    Do people actually think their marriages will cease to exist if gay marriage is made legal?

    I mean honestly the day after gay marriage is made legal, does that mean society ends and the rapture happens or what?

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