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    Re: UK 'least wanted' list published

    It amazes me how fast the right can cloud an issue and twist the facts and take focus away from what this is and bring out something totally unrelated.. aka free speech.

    News flash, Savages and the others right to free speech or any of the others has not been taken away from them.

    News flash, the only thing that has been denied to them is entry in the UK. This is in no way a right what so ever for anyone other than a UK citizen. They can still spew their hatred and brainwashing from the safety of their own countries without any consequences....

    In fact with this list, Savages and the others right to free speech will be increased because they will get into the media spotlight for at least 15 min, which in turn will mean the usual crackpot supporters will spew their brain-dead opinions and unrelated material in their defence and yet again bring to the front the anti democratic forces that they represent. I would not be surprised if someone did not soon start to float the idea it was all Clintons fault or that in fact it was some communist plot supported by Osama Bin Laden.

    The UK, like the US and every other country on the planet, has every right to deny anyone entry in to their territory for what ever reason they see fit, sane or not.

    It is NOT a free speech issue what so ever and dont delude yourselves into believing it is.
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    Re: UK 'least wanted' list published

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    It amazes me how fast the right can cloud an issue and twist the facts and take focus away from what this is and bring out something totally unrelated.. aka free speech.

    News flash, Savages and the others right to free speech or any of the others has not been taken away from them.

    News flash, the only thing that has been denied to them is entry in the UK. This is in no way a right what so ever for anyone other than a UK citizen. They can still spew their hatred and brainwashing from the safety of their own countries without any consequences....

    In fact with this list, Savages and the others right to free speech will be increased because they will get into the media spotlight for at least 15 min, which in turn will mean the usual crackpot supporters will spew their brain-dead opinions and unrelated material in their defence and yet again bring to the front the anti democratic forces that they represent. I would not be surprised if someone did not soon start to float the idea it was all Clintons fault or that in fact it was some communist plot supported by Osama Bin Laden.

    The UK, like the US and every other country on the planet, has every right to deny anyone entry in to their territory for what ever reason they see fit, sane or not.

    It is NOT a free speech issue what so ever and dont delude yourselves into believing it is.
    I'll have to go back and review your stand on illegal immigration into the US. I'm sure it will be enlightening.
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    Re: UK 'least wanted' list published

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    To the Libs, people are morons and cannot survive without government playing the role of Mommy Dearest.

    My bet is most people haven't heard of Savage over there... but will be as curious as hell to take a bite of the Forbidden Fruit.

    They elevated Savage to unheard of levels, and gave him tens of millions in free advertising. People in the UK (and around the world) will tune in, and gain him temporarily, an international audience greater than he could have ever imagined... even if he launched a massive campaign to do so... LOL.

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    Re: UK 'least wanted' list published

    Quote Originally Posted by Saboteur View Post
    Uh huh I figured that would be said. got nothing better?
    Nothing else is needed. It's self-explanatory.

    I can give definitions of liberalism all day long, but I doubt you would agree with them.

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    Re: UK 'least wanted' list published

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    It amazes me how fast the right can cloud an issue and twist the facts and take focus away from what this is and bring out something totally unrelated.. aka free speech.

    News flash, Savages and the others right to free speech or any of the others has not been taken away from them.

    News flash, the only thing that has been denied to them is entry in the UK. This is in no way a right what so ever for anyone other than a UK citizen. They can still spew their hatred and brainwashing from the safety of their own countries without any consequences....

    In fact with this list, Savages and the others right to free speech will be increased because they will get into the media spotlight for at least 15 min, which in turn will mean the usual crackpot supporters will spew their brain-dead opinions and unrelated material in their defence and yet again bring to the front the anti democratic forces that they represent. I would not be surprised if someone did not soon start to float the idea it was all Clintons fault or that in fact it was some communist plot supported by Osama Bin Laden.

    The UK, like the US and every other country on the planet, has every right to deny anyone entry in to their territory for what ever reason they see fit, sane or not.

    It is NOT a free speech issue what so ever and dont delude yourselves into believing it is.
    Well except for the fact that presumably it was talking that got Savage on that no entry list.

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    Re: UK 'least wanted' list published

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You think the UK will block his website?
    If they believe what they put out for public consumption, how can they not?
    It would seem highly hypocritical.

    Ugh s**t... sorry... I momentarily forgot who we were talking about.

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    Re: UK 'least wanted' list published

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'll have to go back and review your stand on illegal immigration into the US. I'm sure it will be enlightening.
    And the relevance to the subject at hand?
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    Re: UK 'least wanted' list published

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Well except for the fact that presumably it was talking that got Savage on that no entry list.
    So? Most are pretty much on that list for talking.. what makes Savage and the other American freak so special? I mean I dont hear anyone crying foul over the Muslim's being banned from entering the UK, or the Russian skin heads, or even (oddly) the Jewish radical..

    Like it or not, the UK has the right to deny entry for anyone they like, JUST like Israel, and the US do on a very regular basis.
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    Re: UK 'least wanted' list published

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So? Most are pretty much on that list for talking.. what makes Savage and the other American freak so special? I mean I dont hear anyone crying foul over the Muslim's being banned from entering the UK, or the Russian skin heads, or even (oddly) the Jewish radical..

    Like it or not, the UK has the right to deny entry for anyone they like, JUST like Israel, and the US do on a very regular basis.
    I'm not arguing that they don't. However I really hope the US does not go in the same direction. Folks should be able to say what's on their mind without the thought police threatening them with banishment from what are supposed to be relatively free societies.

    Savage is a dick, but who wants to live in a dickless environment? Not me!

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    Re: UK 'least wanted' list published

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    I'm not arguing that they don't. However I really hope the US does not go in the same direction. Folks should be able to say what's on their mind without the thought police threatening them with banishment from what are supposed to be relatively free societies.

    Savage is a dick, but who wants to live in a dickless environment? Not me!
    The US has already done that for god sake lol.

    They have banned entry for 3 month old babies because they had the "wrong name".

    Even the Cat Stevens issue was a clear cut attempt to bar a person because of his opinions, even though the alleged opinions were provided by a 3rd party without any evidence. Even if Cat Stevens had knowingly given money to a Hamas charity, then that is an expression just as much as saying "i support bla bla" and the US banned entry based on this allegation by another nation. So dont try to delude yourself in thinking that the US is any better than the UK.. after there are over 1 million people on the no fly list to the US.. and far far from all of those are wanted terrorists.. they are on that list because the US does not want them into the US for what ever reason they see fit..
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