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    Re: UK 'least wanted' list published

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Short answer - YES
    Well that may be true philosophically. But it's up to the people of that country to decide, not the people of another.
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    Re: UK 'least wanted' list published

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    liberalism - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

    Main Entry: lib·er·al·ism
    Pronunciation: \ˈli-b(ə-)rə-ˌli-zəm\
    Function: noun
    Date: 1819
    1: the quality or state of being liberal
    2 a: often capitalized : a movement in modern Protestantism emphasizing intellectual liberty and the spiritual and ethical content of Christianity b: a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market, and the gold standard c: a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties d: capitalized the principles and policies of a Liberal party
    — lib·er·al·ist \-b(ə-)rə-list\ noun or adjective
    — lib·er·al·is·tic \ˌli-b(ə-)rə-ˈlis-tik\ adjective
    A definition of a liberal written by a liberal. Ya gotta love it.

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    Re: UK 'least wanted' list published

    Quote Originally Posted by Saboteur View Post
    Well that may be true philosophically. But it's up to the people of that country to decide, not the people of another.
    In the U.S., non-Americans have the same rights as citizens. Is that not clear??

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    Re: UK 'least wanted' list published

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Let's take a look at the Nazi swine who banned Savage.

    Am I supposed to know who this is?
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    Re: UK 'least wanted' list published

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    A definition of a liberal written by a liberal. Ya gotta love it.
    Uh huh I figured that would be said. got nothing better?
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    Re: UK 'least wanted' list published

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    In the U.S., non-Americans have the same rights as citizens. Is that not clear??
    I think you misinterpreted the question you answered. The poster didn't specify non-americans in the U.S., she asked if non-americans were entiteld to americans rights.
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    Re: UK 'least wanted' list published

    Quote Originally Posted by Saboteur View Post
    Am I supposed to know who this is?
    Uhh, prime minister of England.
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    Re: UK 'least wanted' list published

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saboteur View Post
    Savage's statement is a hateful lie and you know it.
    Free speech is what it is.
    It reveals idiocy and genius; sometimes a very fine line.

    You want to start this game?
    It is a political one.
    It ends badly.

    Now... let's play shall we?

    You can take Savage, and I'll raise you with Rev Wright, Rev Pfleger and Barack Hussein Obama for starters.

    Your turn.

    My position? Perhaps you should understand what you think you hate.
    I know what it is, from your perspective.
    It is equivocal to intolerance.

    Liberal used to mean 180 to what it does today.
    Libs have taken a good term, and as usual, have preverted it beyond belief.
    Then they run from it, like Hillary, and her "progressive" moniker.

    You folks really are a sad lot.
    What is it about Liberty that you cannot understand or tolerate?

    Of course I don 't expect to accept that fact because your weak mind has been twisted by those idiots you pay attention to.
    Geez, I used to be a hard core leftist.
    Then I grew up. Changed 180 degrees.
    What was that about not being open minded... "weak minded"?

    It's not the U.S., there has always been this policy in britian, they are just now making it public knowledge of who is on the list.
    Is England hostile to free speech... free political speech? Seems so.

    I agree but here in the U.S., if he is in another country he should obey that countries laws.
    To think, we are largely a product of the English, English thought, English law.

    My, how they have fallen.


    That's what people said before an insane Austrian took over Germany a few decades ago. But you're right we shouldn't learn from the past, we should just demonize with propaganda and 'brave words' a set of people whom we don't agree with for the soul purpose of having a scapegoat to cover the true intentions of their party.
    This is the case for censorship?
    ?
    ?

    A party that censored and killed its opponents?
    Hmmm.


    If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.
    Adolf Hitler
    LOL.
    You Libs have this down to perfection, and with the aid of the AMMP (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...DfCyEqwtibBfQw) you have the propagandist arm... yet you fret over a someone who doesn't tolerate you very often.

    You've got a nice bed fellow.
    Did I say I listen to Savage (I have a couple times), have I said I supported him?

    See, what I am defending is the value of FREE SPEECH.
    I think Rev. Wright and Pfleger are loony toons, but have, through being able to speak freely... identified what type of spineless drivel they are and Obama is nd has been for decades.

    They shouldn't be censored, because it tells us who these hate mongers and their followers are.

    He sat there for 20 years... ate up the hate... and THAT has value.
    If only people would have looked... because we're getting it back in spades today.

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    Re: UK 'least wanted' list published

    This makes me think the UK gov't has a very low opinion of it's own people if simply letting someone like Michael Savage into their country will be enough to incite people to violence against certain groups
    WTF? Aren't the citizens over there offended that their gov't holds such a low opinion of them? Their government's stance says way more about them than it does about Michael Savage.
    At the very least it makes me think the gov't over there thinks it's people are very delicate and need to be wrapped in cotton wool; have their delicate ears protected from maybe hearing something offensive.
    **Hmm, maybe there's some money to be made in all this. If Savage does find a way in maybe we can export some smelling salts. What if he talks and they *gasp* hear him?! I imagine them clasping their bosoms and going into a swoon or something

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    Re: UK 'least wanted' list published

    Quote Originally Posted by Dix View Post
    This makes me think the UK gov't has a very low opinion of it's own people if simply letting someone like Michael Savage into their country will be enough to incite people to violence against certain groups
    WTF? Aren't the citizens over there offended that their gov't holds such a low opinion of them? Their government's stance says way more about them than it does about Michael Savage.
    At the very least it makes me think the gov't over there thinks it's people are very delicate and need to be wrapped in cotton wool; have their delicate ears protected from maybe hearing something offensive.
    **Hmm, maybe there's some money to be made in all this. If Savage does find a way in maybe we can export some smelling salts. What if he talks and they *gasp* hear him?! I imagine them clasping their bosoms and going into a swoon or something
    To the Libs, people are morons and cannot survive without government playing the role of Mommy Dearest.

    My bet is most people haven't heard of Savage over there... but will be as curious as hell to take a bite of the Forbidden Fruit.

    They elevated Savage to unheard of levels, and gave him tens of millions in free advertising. People in the UK (and around the world) will tune in, and gain him temporarily, an international audience greater than he could have ever imagined... even if he launched a massive campaign to do so... LOL.

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    Last edited by zimmer; 05-06-09 at 11:10 AM.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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