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U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanistan

Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

American said:
Does Afghanistan have separation of church and state?
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I don't think they do. Right, cause trying to convert people I think is against the law there, isn't it? By that I mean convert to non-Muslim. I think it's mostly theocracy, but I guess maybe I'm not 100% sure.
 
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kaya'08 said:
Ethereal has no excuse. There is no excuse. He is making up BS for his sadistic religion. These so called spiritual guides have no right to extend what they do beyond military personnel, finished. Anyway, its the military personnel themselves that is doing not. Read the article.
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Sorry to burst your bubble but I'm not a Christian.
 
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kaya'08 said:
Despite my disgust at what some American military personnel is doing, such laws that abuse human rights that are placed in Afghanistan should not be respected by any NATO personnel and ignored completely.
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I half agree.
I still think laws and culture should be respected to make sure the locals don't hate your guts and try to kill you even more.
If you are abiding by laws that you personally do not agree with, that is the issue of the soldier. Do your job and leave.
 
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American said:
Does Afghanistan have separation of church and state?
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Does Afghanistan even have a legitimate government?
 
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jallman said:
The point, apparently.
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There's that "higher standard" you're required to live up to :2wave:
 
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Jerry said:
Chaplains are officers, so I suppose the anti-theists on this thread would have proffered an entire platoon be compromised for insubordination then simply have the officer disciplined.
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How many years did you serve in the military?
 
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Ikari said:
I don't think they do. Right, cause trying to convert people I think is against the law there, isn't it? By that I mean convert to non-Muslim. I think it's mostly theocracy, but I guess maybe I'm not 100% sure.
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I don't think a Muslim can convert out without being killed by a lynch mob.
 
Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

American said:
If they didn't use a giant tent, I don't think it counts as a crusade.
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Did they try to make rain in Afghanistan? :shock:
 
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kaya'08 said:
Despite my disgust at what some American military personnel is doing, such laws that abuse human rights that are placed in Afghanistan should not be respected by any NATO personnel and ignored completely.
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As good as that sounds, that's an assault on Afghanistan's sovereignty. Honestly, I don't really know why any group of humans still would have any amount of theocracy noting how bad it's been in history. And pressure should be placed on countries with bad human rights records (China). But can we just at our leisure ignore laws of other countries while in that country by claiming it to be unjust?
 
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Jerry said:
There's that "higher standard" you're required to live up to :2wave:
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I haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about and I have all ideas neither do you.
 
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Ikari said:
It is if you're trying to claim that it's ok for US military to attempt to spread Christianity. When you use a State military to invade and then spread a religion in an area, that's a crusade.
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Where's your proof it's a "crusade?"

Where's your proof "crusade" was the objective of the US military action in Afghanistan?

Do you know what a "crusade" is?

This isn't about our military men and women having the ability to practice their religion; this is about them breaking the rules of the military and trying to proselytize the native population.
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What this is about is the leftist foaming at the mouth over a few bibles being spread around and people talking about the religion of Christianity. It pisses off you leftists to no end. You people come completely unhinged when strict PC rules are not followed by others. Rules don't apply to leftists, of course.

Well, you people really ought to get over it. The more bibles that can be given away, the better. The more people that convert, the better. The more you people are pissed off, the better.

We know something is good when you people come unglued. :lol:
 
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Laila said:
I don't think a Muslim can convert out without being killed by a lynch mob.
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Gotta love the irrationality of religion.
 
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Laila said:
I don't think a Muslim can convert out without being killed by a lynch mob.
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Ah. More Muslim tolerance.
 
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Laila said:
Why bother in the beginning?
Are we trying to get the Afghans killed and the soldiers placed in danger?

Now frankly, If Americans wish to place US Soldiers in such a position. I'm backing off but not whilst there are British soldiers in the same country and if it got out Bibles are being handed out then a ****storm will happen.

Freedom of religion does not exist in Afghanistan, some people need to remember that
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Part of practicing Christianity is inviting others to join.

Don't confuse this with aggressive evangelism.

Offering free bibles and keeping the door open to a service is part of the Christian faith.

It's worth pointing out that this is part of the Muslim faith as well, so why doesn't the OP go off on Muslims attempting to convert solders?

Political bias.

Please see through it.
 
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Jerry said:
We offer free food and medical care, and those actions are far more religious acts than simply unfolding a table and placing a stack of bibles on them with a "free" sign, so why not?



Sure but that's a separate point altogether, not at all what I was talking about.

Have some perspective. People on this thread are acting like we've released the plague here. Solders attempting to convert the locals does cross a line, but when placed in context to what real radicals do, this is not the end of humanity you make it out to be.

I'm not supporting solders evangelizing here, though you are treating everyone who doesn't share your exact view as though they actually are the enemy you imagine them to be.

I'm simply asking you to have some perspective.



Pic link please?
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The only perspective that matters really is that this guy:

Lt. Col. Gary Hensley, the chief of the U.S. military chaplains in Afghanistan, was shown delivering a recorded sermon to other soldiers, saying: "The special forces guys Ğ they hunt men basically. We do the same things as Christians, we hunt people for Jesus. We do, we hunt them down."

He also told soldiers that as followers of Jesus Christ, they all have a responsibility "to be witnesses for him."

"Get the hound of heaven after them, so we get them into the kingdom. That's what we do, that's our business," Al Jazeera’s footage quoted him as saying. The U.S. military denied it has allowed soldiers to try to convert Afghans to Christianity, considered a crime in many Muslim countries. Under the U.S. military code of conduct, armed forces on active duty are prohibited from trying to convert a person's faith.
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has clearly gone off mission and he needs to get reacquainted with what specifically his mission and job entail. If he can't separate the duties he actually has from the duties he feels he ought to have then he needs to be removed from his position.

Sweet, simple, easy.
 
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Ikari said:
Gotta love the irrationality of religion.
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It's more culture.
Honor dictates that if someone converts out, it brings shame.
Some would rather remove the problem altogether.
 
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Ikari said:
As good as that sounds, that's an assault on Afghanistan's sovereignty.
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Yeah...and? If they cannot support and uphold the basic human rights laws, then we have no need to worry about caring about there sovereign. And thats pretty stupid talking about sovereign considering we up and down there arse occupying there own country. That doesnt sound like sovereign to me.
 
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Ethereal said:
Just asking a question, that's all.
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I think it might be a rather sensitive subject for Jer since he was supposedly going into the military and failed to serve his country as he committed to do.
 
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Jerry said:
It's worth pointing out that this is part of the Muslim faith as well, so why doesn't the OP go off on Muslims attempting to convert solders?
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Muslims are handing out the Qu'ran to US Soldiers?

What kind of crazy ass Muslim would anywhere near a person with a gun and in a uniform?
 
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Laila said:
I don't think a Muslim can convert out without being killed by a lynch mob.
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Obama seems to have done so. bwahahahaha. Totally stupid, but it amused me. :mrgreen:
 
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Laila said:
It's more culture.
Honor dictates that if someone converts out, it brings shame.
Some would rather remove the problem altogether.
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In some Muslim cultures, converting to Christianity is a crime punishable by death, so these missionaries are meddling in affairs they don't even comprehend
 
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jallman said:
I haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about and I have all ideas neither do you.
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You post is a violation of forum rule 6. I was just pointing that out.

Perhaps if you explained what you think I missed, since I did civilly ask for what I missed, that would be a more helpful post.
 
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Laila said:
What kind of crazy ass Muslim would anywhere near a person with a gun and in a uniform?
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Palestinians sure don't... THEY go after defenseless kids.
 
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