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U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanistan

Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

winston53660 said:

You didn't answer anything. You made a nonsensical statement.

It was pretty clear to me and anyone else who has at least two brain cells to rub together.:doh
 
Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

Actually you did...

When people try to force him on other people. - winston53660

In your defense it was in answering his question to you.

You do make it sound like handing out a bible is somehow insulting someone? How? You say not interested and move on. If they keep up after that you have em arrested. :lol:

I don't find handing out a Bible anymore insulting than handing out Anton Levy's Satanic Bible insulting. I find it insulting when it is forced by the state and other ways on people.
 
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It was pretty clear to me and anyone else who has at least two brain cells to rub together.:doh
Rubbing them together may cause a fire.
 
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I don't see the evil in someone giving someone a bible.
Its not national policy. If done too much it could cause problems with some of the locals.
No? You must be a xian then. You see, the military is part of our nation and to be more specific, part of our government for all intents and purposes, it's a federal agency which means it's policies ARE our national policies. Let a private organization set up a tent outside off the military base to distribute bibles to anyone who comes asking. Soldiers walking down a street should not be passing out bibles.

Also give the Afghans some credit they are not lunatic extremists for the most part they are simply people going about their lives. Their leaders will make noises about this but unless it becomes US policy to overtly convert the nation they are not going to go ape crap over it.
LOL, get serious. We invaded their country, overthrew it's government. ANYTHING our soldiers do will look like American policy to them and it's just the kind of thing that sets radicals off calling for Jihad. :doh

The reason they called Jihad(thus the Mujahideen) against the USSR was because the USSR had an overt program of destroying religion.
Ahh, are you sure it wasn't because the USSR was trying to take the country and make it part of the Soviet Union?

Its been 8 years as well..and more then enough Afghans have died fighting sideby side with US forces to almost make this an insult.
WTF are you talking about?

The enemy though loves this stuff. Helped them alot in Iraq. The source is al Jazeera which is pretty much undeniably now the propaganda arm of the enemy.
Duh... contradict yourself much?
 
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Good for the US soldiers. I think it is a wonderful idea, spreading Christianity like that. Perhaps their knowledge of Jesus Christ will curtail some of the tribal warfare that has been waged for centuries.
Yeah, because it's worked out so well throughout history, you know that peaceful xian religion. Just ask Ireland!
 
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winston53660 said:

You didn't answer anything. You made a nonsensical statement.

It's common knowledge that each religion seems to believe they are the only one and that all followers of other religions are going to hell.

The book that is being handed to these people is a constant reminder of that belief and will be viewed as an insult.

You might as well walk right up to them and flat out say "You're wrong!"
 
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I don't find handing out a Bible anymore insulting than handing out Anton Levy's Satanic Bible insulting. I find it insulting when it is forced by the state and other ways on people.

How is it being forced (that word again) by the state? Because they are in the military this is somehow the state forcing the issue?

I could understand if the troops were given legal orders to go out and convert people by what ever you consider "force" insulting, but this is not the case.

As far as handing out Satanic bibles, so what? You say not interested and move on. No insult, no foul.
 
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It was pretty clear to me and anyone else who has at least two brain cells to rub together.:doh

You babbled?
 
Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

It's common knowledge that each religion seems to believe they are the only one and that all followers of other religions are going to hell.

The book that is being handed to these people is a constant reminder of that belief and will be viewed as an insult.

You might as well walk right up to them and flat out say "You're wrong!"

And so saying someone is wrong is now considered an insult? No wonder people aren't learning anything in school anymore. :lol:
 
Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

How is it being forced (that word again) by the state? .

Christ on a cracker I did not say it was.
 
Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

How is it being forced (that word again) by the state? Because they are in the military this is somehow the state forcing the issue?

I could understand if the troops were given legal orders to go out and convert people by what ever you consider "force" insulting, but this is not the case.

As far as handing out Satanic bibles, so what? You say not interested and move on. No insult, no foul.
I didn't know Satan wrote a bible.
 
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Yeah, because it's worked out so well throughout history, you know that peaceful xian religion. Just ask Ireland!

What does that have to do with what is happening NOW! Just curious.
 
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The willfully blind.

I don't agree with what they are doing, but it should come as no surprise evangelicals are out doing what they feel they are called to do.
I think this is more than just a few evangelicals "doing their thing". It's pushed, I've seen it. As an officer in the Marines I saw MANY officers push religion down the chain... "Get church attendance up" "get those men to pray before X"... I've seen plenty of it. As the OP outlined, the military has bibles printed in the local languages... That's proof enough of sanction.
 
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Leftist always come unhinged at the mere mention of Jesus.

Jesus, Jesus, Jesus! :rofl

Wouldn't you think, probably not, but give it a try, that converting a few muslims to Christianity might just be a good thing?
NO. Better to try and liberalize their religion like xianity has been. Liberalization tends to dampen the aggressive tendencies of the loons. Why do you think there is such a difference in attitude amonst the cons and libs right here on this forum?
 
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And so saying someone is wrong is now considered an insult? No wonder people aren't learning anything in school anymore. :lol:

When right and wrong is purely opinionated yes, it is insulting and rude.

I don't quite understand why it's so hard for you guys to get this. You are entitled to your views in life and religion and other people should be entitled to theirs.

Put frankly, I don't know many people who don't at the very least get ANNOYED by Jahovas witnesses coming to their door.


But like I said, when your book condemns others for their choice in religion, and you hand it to them knowing that they are not of the same creed.... come on. What does that suggest?
 
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Yeah, because it's worked out so well throughout history, you know that peaceful xian religion. Just ask Ireland!

How many times have we done this now? 10? 20?

Just because some Christians did something doesn't mean they did it purely because they were Christians. Bigotry is bigotry and it is a part of human nature, not the religion.

You do realize there are political elements to that whole Ireland thing, don't you?

Nevermind...you probably don't and you most likely wouldn't acknowledge it if you did. That would be a little too inconvenient to your hard on for slamming Christians.


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Christ on a cracker I did not say it was.

Uummmm...

I find it insulting when it is forced by the state and other ways on people. - winston53660

We are still trying to find out what this "force" you mention is. Because the majority of religions (not including the lunatic fringe of Islam or any other) do not convert via the sword or any other forcefull means.
 
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Christ on a cracker I did not say it was.

Typical leftist. Avoid, then lie.
 
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It's a damn stupid idea. Religious tract in one hand and M-16 rifle in the other is not credible message for any religion.

No religion is credible anymore, lets face it.

No.

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Heres a wiki article directly addressing the lives/history/numbers of "Persian Jews"
Persian Jews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I was talking about the part when you said "but they dont come out for some reason...", i know theres Iranian Jews.

Since when is Jesus Christ an insult?

Its percieved as an insult when an occupying army comes and tries to convert those in a predominantly muslim country to there religion, and preaching about it, as if they have come and invaded the region to change the religion of that country...the entire concept is percieved as an insult, not Jesus in paticular. Dont twist what he said.

If the Afghanis did not want to hear the message, then why do they listen? After all, it is just a harmless little book they handed out.

Its not the job of the military. Do not deny it, you couldnt possibly deny it. Is that the duty of the American military? No. So much for seperation of church and state in government institutions, right?

Winston said:
I don't find handing out a Bible anymore insulting than handing out Anton Levy's Satanic Bible insulting. I find it insulting when it is forced by the state and other ways on people.

What winston is trying to say is, the military is "forcing" the religion onto the Afghans. Not literally force them physically, but try to shove the bible in there faces and get converting.
 
Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

You babbled?

No, I spoke pretty clearly. You probably didn't understand because I wasn't making the appropriate hand gestures like slamming a "c" shaped left hand against my right shoulder repeatedly.
 
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When right and wrong is purely opinionated yes, it is insulting and rude.

Only to people with really thin skin.

I don't quite understand why it's so hard for you guys to get this. You are entitled to your views in life and religion and other people should be entitled to theirs.

Who has said they are not?

Put frankly, I don't know many people who don't at the very least get ANNOYED by Jahovas witnesses coming to their door.

Huge difference between "annoying" and "insulting."

But like I said, when your book condemns others for their choice in religion, and you hand it to them knowing that they are not of the same creed.... come on. What does that suggest?

So what? For all I know they could be right. I don't think they are but meh. Again just PC garbage and people with really thin skin.

Part of the reason this country is getting so messed up.
 
Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

If the Afghanis did not want to hear the message, then why do they listen? After all, it is just a harmless little book they handed out. :lol:
You are such a troll. Harmless little book that has been the basis for millions of deaths... :shock:
 
Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

Since he was first used as an excuse to bludgeon someone into conversion?
Have you ever seen anyone bludgeoned into conversion?
 
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