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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    That has nothing at all to do with handing someone a Bible or any other book.



    Yes you would. This again has little or nothing to do with handing someone a book.
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    That has nothing to do with the here and now, nothing at all. It has even less to do with what we are taught by Jesus.

    It is amazing how Christianity finally matured, but you seem to still be living in ancient times.
    What? try keeping up with the part of the discussion that you're responding to.

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Yes you could continue with a very long list of examples which you ignorantly draw upon in rabid blind hate of something you know little about. Yes, you could continue to play the fool and yes, I can continue to laugh at you.
    Again, with no reasonable counter argument you find it necessary to attack. It's what bullys do, but unfortunately for you, I'm not frightened by bullys or their tactics.

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Well now this is totally false. Except the part about you being an angry, irrational, and emotional liar.
    More ad homs from you eh? Look, I'm not gay so no matter how long you follow me around and no matter how much attention you give me, I'm not going to love you. Sorry, move on.

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Well, take it however you like, but NJPs and Court Martials happen all the time without your demands for discipline and punishment. Soldiers and Marines that were caught trying to get back weapons from Afghanistan and Iraq for trophies or memorabilia were Court Martialed. And this was without the public outcry for exaggerations and drama.

    The same is true for innapropriate behavior of any sort in these countries. Now, those that were handing out Bibles were probably told to "stop it" and thusly escaping the loooong arm of the self-righteous looking to flog them to death for their behavior, but there are bigger problems.
    Yeah, but the other side of that coin is, how long do you think the command knew about what was going on in Abu Ghraib before those pictures leaked out?

    You can't bull**** people who have been in the military, I've seen plenty of things swept under the rug for various reasons.

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    So when my Marine friend comes back here to visit he isn't allowed to go proselytize when not in uniform? You honestly think that is true?
    Are we talking about a policy for our troops in Afghanistan? Hmm, I think so.

    There is no policy against proselytizing in the military unless it becomes disruptive or a PR problem with the civilian population. It would probably fall under the category of "military bearing".

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Then if you do understand the concept, why are you arguing against it?

    Childish or not is irrelevant. Perception is reality. We want to be perceived as being there for a specific task, if we are perceived to be insulting or undermining their religion then that will undermine our real task.

    Think of it this way, if joe the afghan thinks Americans are proselytizing or trying to convert people to xianity and joe the afghan goes to his tribal leader and says so, do you think joe the tribal leader will be inclined to help the Americans when asked?
    My argument has nothing at all to do with anything you are saying. I actually agree with you, and I have stated the same thing earlier in this thread. I am arguing against the stupidity of someone being insulted by being handed a book no matter who they are.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    What? try keeping up with the part of the discussion that you're responding to.
    I have. You on the other hand are as usual lost. You did not bother to read what came before and gave a typical knee jerk reaction.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    More ad homs from you eh? Look, I'm not gay so no matter how long you follow me around and no matter how much attention you give me, I'm not going to love you. Sorry, move on.
    Wow. Slippery cock thought this ignorant statement would be funny. Ha, dont worry, Jallman isnt on your tail, get over yourself.
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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    If it's such a non-story then why don't all of you excuse makers just say - yeah, they aren't supposed to do it and they shouldn't - end of discussion. Instead, people want to argue that it's not that bad or that it's not really happening, et al.

    Well, despite it being improper, it is not that bad. But such things are never the end of the discussion. People here are arguing that the "military" shouldn't do such things and that the "military" should not be endorse such things. The argument goes from a few indivuduals behaving badly to the entire military behaving as if on a religious crusade. It's the same self-righteous, self-flaggelation that Westerners do that offers comfort and validity to our enemiss false and exaggerated accusations.

    1) They accuse of exaggerated behavior.

    2) The ignorant in the West fall all over themselves to be the first to agree that such behavior is bad.

    3) The accusers in the Middle East now report on how Westerners also are amiss over such American military behavior.

    The non-issue, used to stir the uneducated and ignorant oppressed Middle Eastern masses, now becomes an issue all because Westerners haven't the abililty to step back and place things into perspectives before they run off at the mouth. The worse is when our own media rushes to validate non-issues.

    It continues to be a non-story.

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Who could tell what you know since I stopped reading when you blamed the democrats for the military cuts made by Reagan and Bush 41. Yeah, our military got really weak under Clinton...
    The fact is that Bush started the cuts and the cut backs in the post Cold War era. Clinton continued this behavior even as he exhausted the under funded military from one crisis to another and embarked on the notion that contracting out was best for the military and our defense. The ironic thing is that people assumed that Clinton's defense spending went towards the military instead of the corporations who were building high tech toys the military didn't need. Bush Jr. was well into continuing this behavior until 9/11.

    These are the facts. If you weren't so eager to protect Democrats as if you owe something to them then you would have realized that this is a Washington thing...not an individual President thing. Perhaps if I mentioned "Republican" when I spoke of Bush or pretended that 8 years of the last decade wasn't under a Democratic President, but really a secret Republican President, you would have enjoyed your partisan position more.

    You want to be a Democrat? Own its negative side too.
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