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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Thank you, seriously, but your previous response is pretty snotty and could have been REALLY cleared up with this.

    I don't claim I didn't make a mistake in not reading it, but I only responded to your comment in kind. Had you presented this, it would have been much more civilized.

    Again thank you for providing this and clearing up my mistake on Gy's intent.
    Yeah well, I get snotty at times so no biggie. Sometimes it's just like banging your head against the wall though. A guy comes on, clearly explains himself, and that's followed by a bunch of folks saying, "So you don't have a problem with the military doing this, you think it's their JOB???" makes you want put a fork through your eye.

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    And that's up to you to decide?
    In this case, yes.

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    The book they are being handed?
    So when a non-Christian gets handed any different religious book they should be insulted?

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    You're going to hell if you don't do this. There's the "difference".
    No there is not. It is a book that may or may not be correct, most non-Christians know this. So again no reason to be insulted. In fact it is just you making excuses for being offended by something you can take with a grain of salt if you so choose.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    Once again, the thickness of skin so to speak, is not for you to decide.
    Not true. I know what is reasonable and what is not according to our society. Being offended by someone handing you a Bible is unreasonable. Being annoyed, yes no problem, being offended is just over the top. Anyone can see this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    This country is getting so messed up because you are being told that your religion should not be pushed on someone with a claimed faith already?
    No. Nice fallacy argument.

    It is getting ruined by PC people who get offended by anything they don't agree with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    I suppose I wouldnt care as much if there werent so much fire and brimstone included in the texts. But seeing how it's well known what the bible thinks of people of other faiths, yeah.... Think about it.
    If they are strong in whatever faith they follow, why would it matter? I know as a Christian I don't really care if someone of another faith thinks differently. It is a free country and I enjoy the same right to freedom of religion as they do.

    I am strong in my faith and have no doubts I am on the correct path for me. So why would say a Muslim handing me a book insult me or my faith? Fact is it shouldn't, unless you are already weak in whatever faith you choose to follow.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    So when a non-Christian gets handed any different religious book they should be insulted?
    Not at all if it is from a non-military person.

    However if it is from a military person that is currently part of a personnel that came and blew your country to hell and limb and killed civilians even if it was non-intentional, yeah, I would say it would be insulting to me.

    Again, since when did it become the mission of the U.S. military to pass along CHRISTIAN bibles?

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Not at all if it is from a non-military person.

    However if it is from a military person that is currently part of a personnel that came and blew your country to hell and limb and killed civilians even if it was non-intentional, yeah, I would say it would be insulting to me.
    So if the solider in question did it out of uniform it would be OK?

    Again I say if the person of faith is strong in what they believe it should not matter, period.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Again, since when did it become the mission of the U.S. military to pass along CHRISTIAN bibles?
    It's not, and I agree with you. I mentioned as much pages back in this thread.

    So please don't assume my position without at least peaking at what came before. I know it's a pain, but it avoids confusion.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    If they actually handed out the bibles to the native people, then they committed a crime.
    The "are they guilty or not" is not a debate on whether or not it's ok to hand out bibles. The military is expressly forbidden from doing that.
    Quote me a link to the law you are referring to.

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    the Marines shouldn't be handing out religious material since it invites even more violence, .
    That is the whole reason we are there baby.

    Incite that attempt at violence and then kill the perpetrators thereof. Pretty soon, no-one gets attacked for religious crap, because we shot everyone with that proclivity. Obama can put up a "Messiah Accomplished" banner and we can go home.

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    In this case, yes.
    Just like religion, this is purely opinion.

    So when a non-Christian gets handed any different religious book they should be insulted?
    I would apply that equally to anyone who would rather not be told that they are "going to hell" because of their religious beliefs.



    No there is not. It is a book that may or may not be correct, most non-Christians know this. So again no reason to be insulted. In fact it is just you making excuses for being offended by something you can take with a grain of salt if you so choose.
    It's not me that has an issue with the silly stories in that table-leveling device. I just see how if you are dedicated to a certain faith and you are being handed a book that tells you that you are going to hell because of it, it can be very offensive.



    Not true. I know what is reasonable and what is not according to our society. Being offended by someone handing you a Bible is unreasonable. Being annoyed, yes no problem, being offended is just over the top. Anyone can see this.
    It is not our society. It is theirs, remember? Afghanistan?



    No. Nice fallacy argument.

    It is getting ruined by PC people who get offended by anything they don't agree with.
    I'm sure the PC bs wouldnt be pushed so hard i there werent people that actually agreed with crap like this.



    If they are strong in whatever faith they follow, why would it matter? I know as a Christian I don't really care if someone of another faith thinks differently. It is a free country and I enjoy the same right to freedom of religion as they do.

    I am strong in my faith and have no doubts I am on the correct path for me. So why would say a Muslim handing me a book insult me or my faith? Fact is it shouldn't, unless you are already weak in whatever faith you choose to follow.
    Strength or weakness in your faith has nothing to do with this. The fact of the matter is it is a completely different world over there.

    I'm sure this arguement wouldnt be going very far if the scenario was reversed and it was Afghan troops in OUR country handing us a book that told you that you were wrong.
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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Here's a chocolate bar, it is what I eat on a daily basis.

    Here's a bible, it is what I read on a daily basis.

    Big deal.

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    [quote=Blackdog;1058012717]So if the solider in question did it out of uniform it would be OK? [/quote[

    Sure if the person in question was no longer in the military and got out of it, my blessings.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    It's not, and I agree with you. I mentioned as much pages back in this thread.

    So please don't assume my position without at least peaking at what came before. I know it's a pain, but it avoids confusion.
    no problem then, just show me that person the person that is out of the military and turned peace to Afghanistan and we will have no problem.

    Here is the problem though, you have shown me no such person and the U.S. personnel is being used to shove this religion down people's throats.

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    ... to shove this religion down people's throats.
    That isn't what is happening.
    Last edited by Coolguy; 05-06-09 at 01:19 AM.

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