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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    In the military it's illegal to proselytize, that's the point. There are reports that maybe some individuals within the military did it. It's not the military on the whole doing it, it would be a much different scenario then with orders of magnitude more outrage. But the military made it illegal, any of its troops which engage in it have committed a crime. There is indication that maybe that had gone on with a few individuals within the military; that needs to be investigated.
    Since GySgt has been in the military, I'm sure he already knows what's allowed. So can we move on passed that and get to the important stuff? Yes, let's do investigate, let's form a commission (bipartisan of course, will more liberal atheists of course than Chrisitians), let's appoint an independent counsel, and find out how these poor Afghans were hurt by touching that Bible. They probably deserve a lifetime pension, and free counseling. Of course the illegals over here may protest that it will hurt their ability to get freebies. I can see this turning into a crisis on an international scale, which means the UN will have to arbitrate the solution.
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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There are reports that maybe some individuals within the military did it.

    Reports that maybe...from Al-Jazeera....

    It is a fact that with the numbers of deployed troops over the last 8 years that somebody has probably passed off a Bible. Let's say that out of the hundreds of thousands that have deployed that twenty passed off twenty Bibles. Is this worthy of some grave global concern about the dastardly American military on a crusade rampage? because this is exactly the type of garbage that Al-Jazeera uses to incite the massess, which drives the fanatic to action. And who legitimizes the fanatic's behavior? The Westerner who can;lt keep things in perspctives.

    This is an internal minor issue and those "maybe" individuals may not even be in the military anymore. That's how much a story this is. Insignificant.

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Reports that maybe...from Al-Jazeera....

    It is a fact that with the numbers of deployed troops over the last 8 years that somebody has probably passed off a Bible. Let's say that out of the hundreds of thousands that have deployed that twenty passed off twenty Bibles. Is this worthy of some grave global concern about the dastardly American military on a crusade rampage? because this is exactly the type of garbage that Al-Jazeera uses to incite the massess, which drives the fanatic to action. And who legitimizes the fanatic's behavior? The Westerner who can;lt keep things in perspctives.

    This is an internal minor issue and those "maybe" individuals may not even be in the military anymore. That's how much a story this is. Insignificant.
    Another important concern is, was anything flushed down a toilet?
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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

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    Another important concern is, was anything flushed down a toilet?
    And that brings up another point of interest.

    With Al-Jazeera seeking to make a story around a Bible that was "maybe" passed out as if it was an American or U.S. military agenda to convert the Muslim masses to Christianity, stories about the Qu'ran being handed out to Muslim prisoners with prayer time are absent.

    I find it ironic how we are supposed to be the modern day crusaders in the Middle East, yet pass out the Qu'ran to Islamic prisoners. Of course, a story about how we truly treat Muslims who are incarcerated are covered up with stories of brutal torture and starvation protests and frat party behaviors by National Guardsmen. And as I stated in the post before this, it is the Westerner who points and exaggerates the issues that validates their dramatic portrayals of America.

    Al-Jazeera can write all the stories they wish about Pokeman, Santa Clause, or the Great Satan. But the moment the West involves itself in pathetic self-flagilations and criticisms for the sake of understanding our enemy's feelings, we validate their BS.

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't know. I just don't see it as our problem. Less Saddam was a direct threat to the sovereignty of the United States, which he wasn't.
    So we should remove all of our troops from every part of the world because we can easily defend our sovereignty from direct attack? If you disagree, why?

    The only purpose of having our forces overseas is to avoid genocide and inconviences like pirates (yarrrr)? If you disagree or wish to refine then please explain.
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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    As I have stated before, I'm not a "leftist". You have offered no argument which wasn't shut down, you resorted to nothing but insult. You haven't added anything significant or coherent to the debate.
    You are clearly left of center. Furthermore, all of your arguments are baseless and yet to be proven with one shred of evidence. Like most liberals, you have resorted to exaggerations, innuendo, and rumor. Not one bit of cogent thought, just more recycled leftist bs.

    The final point is, our boys/girls in Afghanistan are innocent of the charges Al Jeezeera and their leftists allies assert. Plain and simple, you people need to get to hell over that instead of sh*tting on them every chance you people get.

    My final thoughts on the matter. Now you may babble on.

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    It would probably more efficient if we flew a B-52 over Afghanistan and dropped a few tons of Bibles down there. We could probably get those in the mountains much easier without have to send up a bunch of troops.
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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    So we should remove all of our troops from every part of the world because we can easily defend our sovereignty from direct attack? If you disagree, why?

    The only purpose of having our forces overseas is to avoid genocide and inconviences like pirates (yarrrr)? If you disagree or wish to refine then please explain.
    I can agree with those. I just think that we should try to figure out maybe how some of our actions can come back on us and try to make more researched decisions. I'm not saying that we go isolationist or refuse to uphold treaty, but I do think that maybe we've taken a rather caviler attitude towards our intervention, and I'm not so sure that's the best. There is a thing called blow back, it's real. Multiple decades of intervention in the Middle East has left a less than favorable taste for the West as a whole. This has fed well into propaganda for the terrorists. In the end, we should note the supply of terrorists is near infinite, so the best way to impact what they can do is to destroy the propaganda they use to swing people to their side. Always be terrorists, deal with it on an individual basis. Messing with all these countries and people and occupying land and such...not sure it has the effect some people envision. This can (and probably will if history is any lesson on this) come back and bite us hard in the ass.

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    With education, gradual progress and changes, relaxation of strict pro-islamic laws, cultural exchange programmes to help Afghanistan widen there view on the world, paticularly the west, eventually, of course it is possible. Its more than feasible to turn Afghanistan into a democracy. We didnt turn Iraq into one overnight. I dont remember saying we did but thats not the point, things like this take time, and its something NATO would be wise to embark on again, otherwise we'll end up in there again doing the exact same thing 10 years from now like the first and second gulf wars.
    Education and economic growth is no guarantee that a government will progress into a liberal democracy. China, though adopting capitalist tendencies is authoritarian and shows no signs of changing. As much as people wish to believe that the Chinese will one day bloom into a human-rights advocating super power there is no certainty or strong signs that such a cultural revolution will ever gain momentum.
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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by DamnYankee View Post
    You are clearly left of center.
    Really? Clearly? You do realize that being conservative involves more than just spewing that everyone around you is a leftist, right? Right?

    Furthermore, all of your arguments are baseless and yet to be proven with one shred of evidence. Like most liberals, you have resorted to exaggerations, innuendo, and rumor. Not one bit of cogent thought, just more recycled leftist bs.
    Like most partisan hacks, you have resorted to blatant falsehoods and charges against the opponent rather than arguments against his points. Not one bit cogent thought, just more recycled partisan hackmanship.

    The final point is, our boys/girls in Afghanistan are innocent of the charges Al Jeezeera and their leftists allies assert.
    What leftist allies?

    Plain and simple, you people need to get to hell over that instead of sh*tting on them every chance you people get.
    No one here has "****" on the troops. No one here doesn't support the troops. Take that stupid ass, tired, droll, and boorish bull**** right back where you got it from because no one here buys into the hysterics.

    My final thoughts on the matter. Now you may babble on.
    Promise? You promise that's the last of your inane crap we'll have to hear on the topic?

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