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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by DamnYankee View Post
    I enjoy a good debate. But I am not a politician. What I have found however, is your run of the mill leftists are not able to maintain focused on the topic. They will stray into left field, or fall back to the old standby; insults.

    Once they have done that, you know you have defeated them. The rest is just details.
    Well you have to give it to them. At least there accepting of everyone in society, Christian or not, gay or bi, and at least there not crazed killers hell bent on taking the lives of every homosexual, converting every non-christian so that they can join Jesus mighty christian organization of "tax collection to believe in God", and at least they base there debates on factual information instead of sheer "faith". Your the one who believes in an invisible man....makes leftists seem a lot more sane when put into that perspective, right?
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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    So you believe things would be better than they are now and in the future if Saddam was left in power?
    I don't know. I just don't see it as our problem. Less Saddam was a direct threat to the sovereignty of the United States, which he wasn't.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't know. I just don't see it as our problem. Less Saddam was a direct threat to the sovereignty of the United States, which he wasn't.
    With Iran trying to trigger a nucleur warhead race in the ME, i can gaurentee had we have not gone in there, we would have been biting ourselves 10 years from now...and even today, looking back, im glad theres one less dictator regime on this planet, and you know it too.
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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by DamnYankee View Post
    I enjoy a good debate. But I am not a politician. What I have found however, is your run of the mill leftists are not able to maintain focused on the topic. They will stray into left field, or fall back to the old standby; insults.

    Once they have done that, you know you have defeated them. The rest is just details.
    As I have stated before, I'm not a "leftist". You have offered no argument which wasn't shut down, you resorted to nothing but insult. You haven't added anything significant or coherent to the debate.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    With Iran trying to trigger a nucleur warhead race in the ME, i can gaurentee had we have not gone in there, we would have been biting ourselves 10 years from now...and even today, looking back, im glad theres one less dictator regime on this planet, and you know it too.
    You worried about Africa?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You worried about Africa?
    Why would i be? Its the middle east that poses a global threat, not Africa. Dont twist my point into something unrelated and irrelevant.
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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't know. I just don't see it as our problem. Less Saddam was a direct threat to the sovereignty of the United States, which he wasn't.
    He was, however, costing us constant headaches as we acted on the UN's behalf to contain him largely alone after 12 years. His existence and game playing saw increased American troop presence in the region. His defiance to obey the rules of losing his war while being allowed to maintain his throne desroyed any UN credibility created during the Gulf War. And in the end, men like Bin Laden would use our "presence in the Middle East" and the "starving children of Iraq" as just one more excuse to slaughter our people.

    One way or another, sooner or later, Hussein had to go.

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Lets face it. Americans done the region and Iraq a favour. This exact same method should be approached in Afghanistan. Out with the religious theocracy and in with a new democracy. A countries soviergn is of no importance when they pose a threat to there own people and the region, especially if it abuses human rights (the legalized rape law says it all).
    Social change cannot occur overnight. Iraq contained far more moderate and educated peoples than Afghan. Iraq is more susceptible to support and sustain a liberal democracy where afghan is not.

    You cannot force an unwanted government on the majority without oppression or authorianism. Therefore, compromises must be made in the hopes that the society will eventually progress and institute the human rights which are enjoyed in the West.
    If you believe in the Supernatural then you can become a millionaire!

    Questioning or criticizing another's core beliefs is inadvertently perceived as offensive and rude.

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Social change cannot occur overnight. Iraq contained far more moderate and educated peoples than Afghan. Iraq is more susceptible to support and sustain a liberal democracy where afghan is not.

    You cannot force an unwanted government on the majority without oppression or authorianism. Therefore, compromises must be made in the hopes that the society will eventually progress and institute the human rights which are enjoyed in the West.
    With education, gradual progress and changes, relaxation of strict pro-islamic laws, cultural exchange programmes to help Afghanistan widen there view on the world, paticularly the west, eventually, of course it is possible. Its more than feasible to turn Afghanistan into a democracy. We didnt turn Iraq into one overnight. I dont remember saying we did but thats not the point, things like this take time, and its something NATO would be wise to embark on again, otherwise we'll end up in there again doing the exact same thing 10 years from now like the first and second gulf wars.
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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    U.S. soldiers running around trying to convert anyone in that region...
    Hasn't happened, won't ever happen. This thread is nothing more than an excuse to piss and moan while engaging heavily in intellectual masturbation.

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