Page 27 of 48 FirstFirst ... 17252627282937 ... LastLast
Results 261 to 270 of 475

Thread: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanistan

  1. #261
    Guru
    DamnYankee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    4,003

    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You're apparently unaccustomed to writing out well thought out and intelligent posts is more like it.
    Cool. My willingness to attempt to abide by the directions of mods is more important than continuing a pointless debate with marginal opponents.

  2. #262
    Sage
    kaya'08's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    British Turk
    Last Seen
    05-12-14 @ 01:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    6,363

    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by DamnYankee View Post
    Cool. My willingness to attempt to abide by the directions of mods is more important than continuing a pointless debate with marginal opponents.
    I feel sorry for Ikari. Judging from your posts, you seem very "Christian". Any religious politician is a walking, talking hypocrit.
    "If religious instruction were not allowed until the child had attained the age of reason, we would be living in quite a different world" - Christopher Hitchens
    > Good to be back, but I'm only visiting for a few weeks. <

  3. #263
    Meh...
    MSgt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:13 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    17,991

    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    You're just differentiating between the military as a whole engaging in illegal military action as opposed to military service folks breaking codes of conduct, right?
    I am. There is no way this happened as people here are portraying. First, you would have to get a group of soldiers together that believed that passing out some Christian Bibles would make things easier on them in their local position. Second, you would have to find an actual jack-ass willing to organize something against what he knows is counter productive and essentially dangerous to everyone around him.

    Are there sermons about Christian duty? Of course. But even though all pastors and priests have a background, they serve as the soldiers shoulder to lean on for spiritual and emotional internal conflicts. They ease tensions and encourage positive frames of mind in an environment where death and destruction is the agenda. They are not there to convert anybody. And the fact that Al-Jazeera is the source of this BS thread, I would point out that Al-Jazeera also ran stories about how Pokiman is the Jews tool to convert Muslims.

    People should consider that in a region where religious conversion continues to be a mission of statement, the way to incite the masses against an enemy is to paint a picture where the modern crusade continues under the tyranical flags of Christianity and Judiasm.

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    As a side bar are military folks allowed or not allowed to wander around in uniform at malls, the movies, etc. This is an argument some friends of mine were having the other day.
    Depends on the branch of service and the uniform. If you are a soldier, an airman, or a sailor, you can be as nasty as you want to be. They are authorized to walk down Malls, Wal-Marts, and even upscale their eating habits by passing up McDonalds to enter a Taco Bell (careful of Swine) in their camoflouge utilities and their PT gear. Marines are not. The utility unform is considered a work uniform, which means that mud, grease, and oil travels with you. The PT uniform is made to sweat. Both uniforms do little to show off the military and to serve in an ambassadorial capacity. There was a time when Marines could wear their cammies to get gas and to pick up milk from a corner store for his baby and such, but not any more.

    All branches, however, are authorized to wear dress uniforms in public. They are proper recruitment tools and they serves much like a man's business suit. If a man wants to show off his success, he shows up in his business suit and carries himself in a specific manner. The military man (or woman) should do the same.
    Last edited by MSgt; 05-05-09 at 06:18 PM.

    MSgt
    Semper Fidelis
    USMC

  4. #264
    Meh...
    MSgt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:13 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    17,991

    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You're apparently unaccustomed to writing out well thought out and intelligent posts is more like it.
    What? Nu-uh. Whatever. Pfft.

    MSgt
    Semper Fidelis
    USMC

  5. #265
    Sage
    scourge99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    The Wild West
    Last Seen
    01-27-12 @ 02:50 AM
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    6,233

    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    We had to deliver democracy, look where it got us. The longest war in US history, closing in on a trillion dollars, over 4,000 soldiers dead for not the freedom and liberty of America, occupation war which should not be engaged in, etc. I'd rather we just not do it.
    So you believe things would be better than they are now and in the future if Saddam was left in power?
    If you believe in the Supernatural then you can become a millionaire!

    Questioning or criticizing another's core beliefs is inadvertently perceived as offensive and rude.

  6. #266
    Sage
    kaya'08's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    British Turk
    Last Seen
    05-12-14 @ 01:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    6,363

    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    So you believe things would be better than they are now and in the future if Saddam was left in power?
    Lets face it. Americans done the region and Iraq a favour. This exact same method should be approached in Afghanistan. Out with the religious theocracy and in with a new democracy. A countries soviergn is of no importance when they pose a threat to there own people and the region, especially if it abuses human rights (the legalized rape law says it all).
    "If religious instruction were not allowed until the child had attained the age of reason, we would be living in quite a different world" - Christopher Hitchens
    > Good to be back, but I'm only visiting for a few weeks. <

  7. #267
    Guru
    DamnYankee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    4,003

    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    I feel sorry for Ikari. Judging from your posts, you seem very "Christian". Any religious politician is a walking, talking hypocrit.
    I enjoy a good debate. But I am not a politician. What I have found however, is your run of the mill leftists are not able to maintain focused on the topic. They will stray into left field, or fall back to the old standby; insults.

    Once they have done that, you know you have defeated them. The rest is just details.

  8. #268
    Meh...
    MSgt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:13 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    17,991

    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Proselytizing is illegal for the US military, no matter how much you'd like to dismiss it and pretend it isn't.
    First we have to get over the high and mighty finger pointing. Proselytizing means to induce someone to convert to one's faith. How is the military doing this? And what faith is the U.S. military? Because surely the Muslims and the Hindus in American uniform need to know what they contracted to. I know of no policy, agenda, or training package to spread Christianity.

    Get over it.
    Last edited by MSgt; 05-05-09 at 06:29 PM.

    MSgt
    Semper Fidelis
    USMC

  9. #269
    Equal Opportunity Hater
    obvious Child's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    0.0, -2.3 on the Political Compass
    Last Seen
    12-09-14 @ 11:36 PM
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    19,883

    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    So you believe things would be better than they are now and in the future if Saddam was left in power?
    In what context and on what criteria?

    As a traditional obstacle to Iran? Yes.
    By not putting us trillions more in debt? Yes.
    By not stretching the military? Yes.
    By not replacing a secular regime with influenced heavily by a theocracy? Yes.

    Bringing democracy and freedom is all good and well, but not when it directly threatens our financial health and the balance of power in vital geographical locations.

    Remember that the big winner in the invasion was Iran.
    "If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu

  10. #270
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    First we have to get over the high and mighty finger pointing. Proselytizing means to induce someone to convert to one's faith. How is the military doing this?
    In the military it's illegal to proselytize, that's the point. There are reports that maybe some individuals within the military did it. It's not the military on the whole doing it, it would be a much different scenario then with orders of magnitude more outrage. But the military made it illegal, any of its troops which engage in it have committed a crime. There is indication that maybe that had gone on with a few individuals within the military; that needs to be investigated.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

Page 27 of 48 FirstFirst ... 17252627282937 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •