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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by DamnYankee View Post
    I am not convinced our military men and women are guilty of anything.

    You people already have them convicted of crimes. So much for innocent until proven guilty.

    And you people wail from the highest mountain tops when some terrorist are being held without having their Miranda Rights read to them.

    Sickening.
    If they actually handed out the bibles to the native people, then they committed a crime. All indications seem to be that's what happened because the bibles were written in the native tongue of the people of Afghanistan. You are endorsing the handing out of bibles, you claim that it's not a bid deal and that Afghanistan isn't fragile. What you endorse is a crime.

    The "are they guilty or not" is not a debate on whether or not it's ok to hand out bibles. The military is expressly forbidden from doing that. The debate is did they hand them out. If they didn't, then there's no crime (though a waste of money as none of them could read those bibles); if they did then there is a crime. But your endorsement of the act of military personnel handing out bibles is an endorsement for crime.
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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    If they actually handed out the bibles to the native people, then they committed a crime.

    What crime? What Code of Conduct or Court Martiable offense took place?

    You people are running off at the mouth over a non-story.

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    What crime? What Code of Conduct or Court Martiable offense took place?

    You people are running off at the mouth over a non-story.
    GySgt didn't we have a thread a few months ago about Marines handing out some kind of religious token or flyer?

    I believe your position was that even if a law wasn't being broken, the Marines shouldn't be handing out religious material since it invites even more violence, and the Marines had enough to deal with already.

    I'm hoping your memory is better than mine today.
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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    What crime? What Code of Conduct or Court Martiable offense took place?

    You people are running off at the mouth over a non-story.
    CENTCOM's general order No. 1 forbids U.S. soldiers from proselytizing.

    A Marine caught handing out coins promoting Christianity to Iraqis in Fallujah about a year ago, infuriating Iraqi leaders, was quickly reprimanded by the U.S. Military.
    U.S. Military Accused of Handing Out Bibles in Afghanistan - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com


    Now, if it can't be shown that the bibles were handed out, there's nothing anyone can do. That's fine, that's normal process of these things. If the bibles were confiscated before being handed out or something like that; no crime committed. If the bibles were actually handed out, that's a crime because that is proselytizing
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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    If they actually handed out the bibles to the native people, then they committed a crime. All indications seem to be that's what happened because the bibles were written in the native tongue of the people of Afghanistan.
    I'm not convinced they handed out bibles, much less bibles in the local lingo. Then again, I support our boys and girls. Next those people they supposedly gave bibles to got married and we bombed the wedding party, but what the hell. Huh?

    You are endorsing the handing out of bibles, you claim that it's not a bid deal and that Afghanistan isn't fragile. What you endorse is a crime.
    Prove a crime was committed.

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    What illegal military practice?
    Aren't there codes of conduct or general orders that prohibit certain behaviors under which the handing out of bibles to foreign locals would be as strictly forbidden as the handing out of porn to same said locals?

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by DamnYankee View Post
    Prove a crime was committed.
    Wow...daft one. Those comments aren't pointed towards the soldiers. If you hand out a bible to native people and you are active duty military, you have committed a crime. You endorsed the ability of active duty military to be able to hand out bibles to a native people; you endorse a crime. Did an actual crime take place? We have to see, they'll investigate this. If they find that they handed out bibles, they are guilty of crime. If they can not find that they handed out bibles, there is no punishment. But that is separate from your actual endorsement of crime. If I say, all murder is perfectly fine and people should do it; I've endorsed a crime. It doesn't matter if someone goes out and kills someone else or not, I've still endorsed a crime.
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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Wow...daft one. Those comments aren't pointed towards the soldiers. If you hand out a bible to native people and you are active duty military, you have committed a crime. You endorsed the ability of active duty military to be able to hand out bibles to a native people; you endorse a crime. Did an actual crime take place? We have to see, they'll investigate this. If they find that they handed out bibles, they are guilty of crime. If they can not find that they handed out bibles, there is no punishment. But that is separate from your actual endorsement of crime. If I say, all murder is perfectly fine and people should do it; I've endorsed a crime. It doesn't matter if someone goes out and kills someone else or not, I've still endorsed a crime.
    You people ought to spend more time backing our boys and girls and less time convicting them based on foreign propaganda the like of Al Jeezee.

    Wow, I can't believe you leftists crap on our military like that.

    God Bless our military, God damn you leftists.

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by DamnYankee View Post
    You people ought to spend more time backing our boys and girls and less time convicting them based on foreign propaganda the like of Al Jeezee.

    Wow, I can't believe you leftists crap on our military like that.

    God Bless our military, God damn you leftists.
    I'm not convicting anyone. Just saying if it happened as reported it needs to be taken care of and I have the utmost faith that it will be if the report has any merit. This is quite different from a stance that would suggest, "Well even if did happen it's not as bad as beheading folks so who cares," and also quite different form, "Our military is full of bad evil doers and they should be crucified tomorrow."

    See?

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    Re: U.S. soldiers encouraged to spread message of their Christian faith in Afghanista

    Quote Originally Posted by DamnYankee View Post
    You people ought to spend more time backing our boys and girls and less time convicting them based on foreign propaganda the like of Al Jeezee.

    Wow, I can't believe you leftists crap on our military like that.

    God Bless our military, God damn you leftists.
    Apparently you don't know what "if" means.
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