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    Re: Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I think instead that closing Gitmo is the right thing to do, but finalizing things until a working, good plan on how to do it is finished, is not a good idea. Obama has asked for a three month extension, and that might have something to do with this.
    Hmm.
    So, would you then say that The Obama made a promise that He had no idea how He would keep?
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    Re: Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Then why do they vote liberal?
    They don't. That is the problem with Democrats these days. Just as there has not been a true Republican party with true Conservative principles since Goldwater....there hasn't been a true Democratic "liberal" principled party since I don't even know when.
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    Re: Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Let's read the entire article, shall we?
    I knew someone would take the bait. I even though it might be you.

    As aleady said:

    IOW the Demcorats are looking to sidestep responsibility.
    They do not want their names to be attached to a vote which probably in the end will go badly for them.
    BUT they will spend other people's money on it.
    What a shock.

    Now, there's that other dicussion you need to involve yourself in....
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1058003457

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    Re: Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    They don't. That is the problem with Democrats these days. Just as there has not been a true Republican party with true Conservative principles since Goldwater....there hasn't been a true Democratic "liberal" principled party since I don't even know when.
    Excellent point.

    Politicians these days seem more concerned with poll number than principles. This Gitmo stunt is a really good example.
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    Re: Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Closing Gitmo sounds all well and good, until folks get confronted with the reality of having to put the detainees somewhere, or, better yet, set them free within the United States. Then Gitmo doesn't seem like such a bad idea after all.

    Liberal ideology is no match for NIMBY. Such is the strength of liberal principles.
    Now that we are no longer sweeping up the streets of Iraq with a net we don't need gitmo. God forbid we should use a military or public prison within our borders to hold them before trial, like any other criminal.

    How many detainees have we added since... let's say, July 2008?

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    Re: Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Then you a poor communicator, look at your post.
    Looks like sarcasm to me.

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    Re: Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Now that we are no longer sweeping up the streets of Iraq with a net we don't need gitmo. God forbid we should use a military or public prison within our borders to hold them before trial, like any other criminal.
    Sounds to me like you have quite a quarrel with the actions of Congressional Democrats.

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    Re: Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Interestingly enough, I take this from a link you posted in another thread: Officials: Gitmo court system likely to stay open



    The actual mechanic of how he would ask for that extension, or who would grant it, I dunno.
    Maybe he's really just asking the American people to be a little more patient *GASP*

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    Re: Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The actual mechanic of how he would ask for that extension, or who would grant it, I dunno.
    He would ask... Himself.

    He would do this by creating a new executive order, changing the date of closure specified in His original executive order.

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    Re: Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Hmm.
    So, would you then say that The Obama made a promise that He had no idea how He would keep?
    I would say that he did not have full knowledge at the time he made the promise(obviously, since he did not have access to all the classified information on Gitmo). I would also say that any big effort on the part of the government takes longer, and costs more than originally planned.

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