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    Re: Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    If needed, money could be transferred later—without a politically difficult vote.
    Let's read the entire article, shall we?

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    Re: Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I knew at least one person would take that seriously ....
    Then you a poor communicator, look at your post.
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    Re: Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    If needed, money could be transferred later—without a politically difficult vote.
    Let's read the entire article, shall we?


    IOW the Demcorats are looking to sidestep responsibility.
    They do not want their names to be attached to a vote which probably in the end will go badly for them.
    BUT they will spend other people's money on it.

    What a shock.
    Last edited by Triad; 05-04-09 at 06:37 PM.

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    Re: Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    Can't really blame a congressman not wanting to be responsible for this -- but, if closing Gitmo is "the right thing to do" then don't you suppose you should vote to do it, regardless of the consequence to your political career?

    Or, is the preservation of personal and partisan political power more importan than "doing the right thing"?
    I guess the democrats in office do not really believe those Gitmo detainees are poor innocent shop keepers,barbers, farmers and sheep hearders rounded up by mean ol evil American soldiers and marines with nothing else better to do than to harass poor innocent Iraqis.
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    Re: Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    How does he "ask" for an extension, when it was his Executive Order that set the deadline in the first place?
    Interestingly enough, I take this from a link you posted in another thread: Officials: Gitmo court system likely to stay open

    Almost immediately after taking office, Obama suspended the tribunal system and ordered a 120-day review of the cases against the 241 men being held at the Navy prison in Cuba. That review was supposed to end May 20. But two U.S. officials said Saturday the administration wants a three-month extension.
    The actual mechanic of how he would ask for that extension, or who would grant it, I dunno.

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    Re: Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Interestingly enough, I take this from a link you posted in another thread: Officials: Gitmo court system likely to stay open



    The actual mechanic of how he would ask for that extension, or who would grant it, I dunno.
    What? You mean there's no "controlling legal authority"?
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    Re: Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    Umm, not exactly, the funding is still there...

    Guantanamo surfaced as well in a closed-door meeting Thursday of the House Appropriations defense panel, which now expects to recommend next week that the relocation language be stricken from a pending $83.4 billion war funding request for Iraq and Afghanistan.

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    President Barack Obama, who within days of taking office, signed an executive order directing that the facility be closed as soon as practicable and no later than one year.

    The appropriations dispute now grows directly out of that decision and includes $30 million for Justice to implement the president’s order and review the status of those detainees held at the facility.

    No special authorization is required for the Justice request. By comparison, the Pentagon chose to wrap its $50 million share in language giving the department broad authority to use the funds to relocate detainees, carry out military construction projects “not otherwise authorized by law” and transfer money to federal agencies to help dispose of the prison population.

    “We’ll leave the money in and drop the language,” said one Republican lawmaker familiar with the deliberations. “It’s not fully done but that’s where we’re going.”


    Dems struggle with Gitmo politics
    “We just simply don’t know how to govern” - Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR) a member of the House Budget Committee

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    Re: Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Closing Gitmo sounds all well and good, until folks get confronted with the reality of having to put the detainees somewhere, or, better yet, set them free within the United States. Then Gitmo doesn't seem like such a bad idea after all.

    Liberal ideology is no match for NIMBY. Such is the strength of liberal principles.
    You are mistaking "liberal principles" with the spineless majority of Democrats of who very few are actually "liberal".
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    Re: Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You are mistaking "liberal principles" with the spineless majority of Democrats of who very few are actually "liberal".
    Then why do they vote liberal?
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    Re: Democrats drop funds to close Gitmo

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Then why do they vote liberal?
    Are they liberal, or progressive? I can't keep them straight.

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