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    Re: The Dilemma of Dissent - A former Bush aide looks back

    Normally, when one is confronted with an easily answereable question, like "Can you prove Bush lied" one jsut pulls out the proof and allows that to speak for itself.

    When one spends time saying "Well of course he did!" It shows you lack the proof required, and hope that your own... enthusiasm will over come the lack of factual evidence.

    Some people are fine with their emotions acting as proof, most people require something a little more tangible then that.
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    Re: The Dilemma of Dissent - A former Bush aide looks back

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Normally, when one is confronted with an easily answereable question, like "Can you prove Bush lied" one jsut pulls out the proof and allows that to speak for itself.
    And normally when a question has been answered say, many times, it is not repeatedly asked for the sole purpose of their own enjoyment.
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    Re: The Dilemma of Dissent - A former Bush aide looks back

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Normally, when one is confronted with an easily answereable question, like "Can you prove Bush lied" one jsut pulls out the proof and allows that to speak for itself.

    When one spends time saying "Well of course he did!" It shows you lack the proof required, and hope that your own... enthusiasm will over come the lack of factual evidence.

    Some people are fine with their emotions acting as proof, most people require something a little more tangible then that.
    Most people, when confronted with a pattern of ongoing lies and deceit, eventually realize they are being taken advantage of. A few, either too blind or ignorant to realize what's going on, continue to defend the source of the lies, even after witnessing it for eight years. The justice system may eventually pass judgement on the un-Constitutional acts of Bush and Cheney, but I have a feeling that even then you won't believe it.

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    Iraq had been non-compliant with UN resolutions going back over a decade before Bush decided to take him out. I personally wouldn't be surprised at all if there was a plan to go into Iraq right from the get go. Saddam violated one UN resolution after another for years and years reducing the UN to an impotent irrelevant powerless joke. If Saddam just failed to cooperate and comply and attempted to just give off the appearance that he was far more dangerous then he turned out to have been that's his own dumbass fault as far as I'm concerned.

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    Re: The Dilemma of Dissent - A former Bush aide looks back

    This is all about getting even for the Clinton impeachment.
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    Re: The Dilemma of Dissent - A former Bush aide looks back

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Iraq had been non-compliant with UN resolutions going back over a decade before Bush decided to take him out.
    When Bush "decided to take him out" Hussein had been cooperating with the inspectors. In fact, the inspectors pleaded with dumbo to not attack, that they were making headway.

    Don't kid yourself. Bush attacked because he wanted to. And nothing was going to get in his way. Not even the truth. Especially the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    When Bush "decided to take him out" Hussein had been cooperating with the inspectors. In fact, the inspectors pleaded with dumbo to not attack, that they were making headway.

    Don't kid yourself. Bush attacked because he wanted to. And nothing was going to get in his way. Not even the truth. Especially the truth.
    What kind of headway exactly were they making?
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    Re: The Dilemma of Dissent - A former Bush aide looks back

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    When Bush "decided to take him out" Hussein had been cooperating with the inspectors. In fact, the inspectors pleaded with dumbo to not attack, that they were making headway.

    Don't kid yourself. Bush attacked because he wanted to. And nothing was going to get in his way. Not even the truth. Especially the truth.
    This is b.s. Hans Blix report leading up to the war can be summarized as Iraq is not cooperating fully, but cooperating in some ways. Put that in perspective alongside a decade of non-cooperation and "making headway," is a little too little a lot too late as far as I'm concerned.

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    Re: The Dilemma of Dissent - A former Bush aide looks back

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Iraq had been non-compliant with UN resolutions going back over a decade before Bush decided to take him out. I personally wouldn't be surprised at all if there was a plan to go into Iraq right from the get go. Saddam violated one UN resolution after another for years and years reducing the UN to an impotent irrelevant powerless joke. If Saddam just failed to cooperate and comply and attempted to just give off the appearance that he was far more dangerous then he turned out to have been that's his own dumbass fault as far as I'm concerned.

    Castro had been non-compliant for 50 years, and he's a lot closer than Iraq. Why didn't we "take him out"?

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    Re: The Dilemma of Dissent - A former Bush aide looks back

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    This is b.s. Hans Blix report leading up to the war can be summarized as Iraq is not cooperating fully, but cooperating in some ways. Put that in perspective alongside a decade of non-cooperation and "making headway," is a little too little a lot too late as far as I'm concerned.
    We were attacked in 2001, not 1991! The "decade" before doesn't matter. It's the period right before dubya attacked that matters. Blix wanted more time and resigned because he didn't get it!

    Besides that, remember... Iraq never attacked us.
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