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Specter hints Kemp died of GOP agenda

EgoffTib said:
I concur. The OP, at least to me, made it sound like some sort of conspiracy about the secret GOP agenda and cancer. The quote sounds nothing like that. It does, as you have said, sound as though he was just taking a shot at the Republicans.
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With all due respect folks, the BN rules state clearly I cannot alter the source title.

Blame them, not me.
 
Hatuey said:
I find it so funny that so many Republicans who defended Joe Lieberman for going 'Independent' on Democrats for what was basically ONE issue(National Security) are now attacking Specter. When Lieberman did it he was standing up for what he believed in! When Specter does it. He's a rhino! a librul! I need a smoke.
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You're once again confused; they are attacking Specter because he really is a MORON not because he left the party.

They are GLAD he left the party; it's the Democrats who seem to have the issues with this. We're glad he left and finally admitted he was a Librul.

Try to keep up will you?

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danarhea said:
I disagree with you a little bit, but I have to post this response in 2 parts.

1) What he said is much different than what is being portrayed by the GOP. This is an excellent example of why the Republican party comes off these days as a bunch of used car salesmen who constantly misrepresent what they are selling.

2) However, there can be no doubt that Specter made that statement for political purposes, and that his own political compass is broken.

So my answer now to the OP is that Specter is right, but he is also wrong. Huh???? LOL.
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Yes to this.

To rephrase what he said was that he disagreed with republicans on this issue, and that if the "war on cancer" had continued, Kemp might have survived his cancer. This is not blaming the GOP for Kemp's death but trying to show why he disagreed with a GOP position. You have to really read alot into his comments to see this as blaming the GOP for Kemp's death.

With that said, as a democrat, if I had been consulted on Specter, I would have been clear that I don't think we want him. He does no good for the democrats and is only changing parties to try and win upcoming election. Let him go independent if he does not like the republicans...oh wait, he can't do that, won't help him in the election...
 
MrVicchio said:
With all due respect folks, the BN rules state clearly I cannot alter the source title.

Blame them, not me.
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That is a reasonable request, which shows why I sometimes have issues with that rule too.

What is your take on Specter's statement?
 
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danarhea said:
That is a reasonable request, which shows why I sometimes have issues with that rule too.

What is your take on Specter's statement?
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Honestly?

It was a slimy comment from a slimy politician. He was trying to make some big point about how, "see the GOP's stances just aren't with my values, take Jack Kemp, the research the GOP denied funding for is an example of where we differ so".... blah blah blah.

He threw in Jack Kemp to hit emotional heartstrings and missed the mark. I don't think he's used to this kind of scrutiny and just made a REALLY dumb and bad analogy.
 
Hatuey said:
I find it so funny that so many Republicans who defended Joe Lieberman for going 'Independent' on Democrats for what was basically ONE issue(National Security) are now attacking Specter. When Lieberman did it he was standing up for what he believed in! When Specter does it. He's a rhino! a librul! I need a smoke.
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Lieberman got kicked out of his own party, Specter did not.
 
Blackdog said:
Lieberman went independent for what he believed in or his core principles. Specter did it purely for political reasons much like this comment. He is playing the partisan game and Lieberman was not.

The 2 are not really comparable.
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I dunno. His badmouthing Obama before the election and then kissing his butt after Obama won.....that doesn't tell me he's a principled person.
 
aps said:
I dunno. His badmouthing Obama before the election and then kissing his butt after Obama won.....that doesn't tell me he's a principled person.
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What do you call badmouthing?
 
MrVicchio said:
With all due respect folks, the BN rules state clearly I cannot alter the source title.

Blame them, not me.
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You are correct. And you are not the problem. The article title is. Not your fault at all...you followed the rules as directed. :)
 
WillRockwell said:
Now, that seems like a true statement. What part of this actual quote do you disagree with?
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I think Jack Kemp would be alive today.
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That sentence is rank speculation. As part of any political discourse, it is beyond crass, descending into the worst sort of disgusting partisan hackery.
 
American said:
That's not badmouthing. There's nothing disrespectful there. He explains his comments. What are you talking about?
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Lieberman questioned the clear and obvious superiority of Dear Leader's insights and intellect. Can there be any more blatant example of high treason than this?
 
Well, to be fair...many of Liebermann's issues with Obama was on national security and the war. While Obama has not exactly been Joe Conservative's favorite person on it, he's either not kept or outright broken a number of his campaign promises in regards to National Security and the War so far that could perhaps soften Joe's view on his "naivity" and allow him to focus on some of the other things that Obama's been doing that calls out to Liebermann's liberal heart.
 
Hatuey said:
I find it so funny that so many Republicans who defended Joe Lieberman for going 'Independent' on Democrats for what was basically ONE issue(National Security) are now attacking Specter. When Lieberman did it he was standing up for what he believed in! When Specter does it. He's a rhino! a librul! I need a smoke.
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Lieberman ran as an independent in his last Senate election campaign, won despite the Democratic party backing a rival, and then still opts to caucus with the Democrats. He was an Independent long before Dear Leader was handed the Democratic Party's nod as their Presidential candidate.
 
celticlord said:
That sentence is rank speculation. As part of any political discourse, it is beyond crass, descending into the worst sort of disgusting partisan hackery.
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We don't know what sort of cancer Kemp had, but it is probable that Specter does know. He himself survived a type of cancer that usually kills, and he spoke on the day of Kemp's death. If anyone has the right to make such a statement it is Specter, though I agree he did it for political purposes.
 
WillRockwell said:
We don't know what sort of cancer Kemp had, but it is probable that Specter does know. He himself survived a type of cancer that usually kills, and he spoke on the day of Kemp's death. If anyone has the right to make such a statement it is Specter, though I agree he did it for political purposes.
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HORSESH*T

Nobody on God's green earth has a right to make such a statement. Not for any reason.
 
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