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    Re: Specter hints Kemp died of GOP agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Look, the son of a bitch used a poor choice of words whether he was really blaming Republicans for Kemp's death or not. Don't praise that old bastard for switching parties, how do you know he won't let you down too?
    I don't remember praising Specter, I don't even particularly like him. But I would defend even YOU if you were being misquoted

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    Re: Specter hints Kemp died of GOP agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Specter was routinely criticized by the right, including on this forum. There wasn't a lot of noise about him the past two years because the Dem's had a majority and it didn't matter as much. If you think back to the "Gang of 14" thing, he was ridiculed a lot. Anytime "RINO'S" were brought up there was a good chance Specter was mentioned. There was a thread ressurected from a couple months ago criticizing him once the news came out he moved to the new party.

    Quite frankly, Specter hasn't been loved by Republicans for some time. The ONLy real "conservative" bedrock stance I've found him to be strong on was the 2nd amendment. In every other issue he is either about as moderate as you can come (having a mix of positions or just no strong real feeling), liberal, or conservative in the meekest least outspoken way possible.

    Specter rarely made the news because he was strongly pushing for a fiscal budget, or to push for tax cuts, or for calls of needing to shrink the size of government, or to strengthen our borders, or to other things. He was generally only in the news when he was pushing strongly for the "amnesty" bill, was blocking conservative judicial nominations, or was one of 4 to 7 republicans that would jump over and side with Democrats to break fillibusters or sway a big item.

    I think if Specter had been at the forefront of a conservative issue or two he'd have had a lot less vitriol shown to him; likely more on par with McCain, who gets insulted but also praised, than with someone like Olympia Snow who I've never seen a good thing said about. But he wasn't, he was a meek quite person on almost all conservative issues unless he was jumping ship to the other side in which case suddenly he was loud and prone to lectures.

    His cache had just gone down in recent years becuase there was less of a need for a token republican to drag over to make something "bipartisan" in hopes of getting it to pass or put onto the floor.
    I've just never seen anything on this forum about him, that's all. I understand why Republicans don't care for him, but that didn't stop them from nominating and backing McCain for President...who is very much akin to Specter. So is it fair to say he was loathed by mostly conservative Republicans, but not all Republicans?
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: Specter hints Kemp died of GOP agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I've just never seen anything on this forum about him, that's all. I understand why Republicans don't care for him, but that didn't stop them from nominating and backing McCain for President...who is very much akin to Specter. So is it fair to say he was loathed by mostly conservative Republicans, but not all Republicans?
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    Re: Specter hints Kemp died of GOP agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Look, the son of a bitch used a poor choice of words whether he was really blaming Republicans for Kemp's death or not. Don't praise that old bastard for switching parties, how do you know he won't let you down too?
    Well if he wins as a Dem and Franken is eventually put in the Senate then Specter has given the Dems 60. That's a gift you know.
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    Re: Specter hints Kemp died of GOP agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Well if he wins as a Dem and Franken is eventually put in the Senate then Specter has given the Dems 60. That's a gift you know.
    Yeah I know, and I'm not happy about it. But now you have the weasel.
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    Re: Specter hints Kemp died of GOP agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yeah I know, and I'm not happy about it. But now you have the weasel.
    Given the fact that our government is rife with weasels, one more won't hurt, and in this case...will only help.
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    Re: Specter hints Kemp died of GOP agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Despised by all but the phonies.
    Right, because moderate Republicans aren't real Republicans. I can almost hear your fingernails digging into the keyboard now.
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    Re: Specter hints Kemp died of GOP agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Given the fact that our government is rife with weasels, one more won't hurt, and in this case...will only help.
    Help how? He has admitted he changed parties only to get re-elected, and would not change the way he voted. So how is he going to help the democrats? If anything, I think his joining the democrats just makes us look bad.

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    Re: Specter hints Kemp died of GOP agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Right, because moderate Republicans aren't real Republicans. I can almost hear your fingernails digging into the keyboard now.
    Sure they are, but phoneys like Specter, uh Spector are not. He's right where he should be, with the other left wing weasels.
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    Re: Specter hints Kemp died of GOP agenda

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I apologize, it did not occur to me that all transcripts would not be complete transcripts, and that the rightwing media, which fills your Favorites, would edit the interview to obtain the most damning result. I understand the confusion, it was not your fault.
    First, really...The "Washington Times" is the "right wing media"?

    Second, yes, you got me pegged. Its exactly what it is. I saw it in my favorites. Yep yep yep. That makes perfect sense if you're so useless as to not even bother reading my post where I make specific reference that I used the only link actually posted in this thread, assuming that you weren't just some ignorant poster that throws around direct quotes without getting it from the currently discussed source OR by supplying your own source. Silly me, thinking you'd be a reasonable understandable poster that would read someone's words, actually comprehend them instead of just create whatever scenario fits your little world view in your head, and then respond accordingly.

    You posted a quote and then got all pissy and emo because someone responded to what you actually typed because YOU failed to actually site anything other than what was being discussed. Not my fault you want to rage out because you failed to do common debate etiquette instead of think "Hey, you know, I was too damn lazy to post a link to the thing I'm quoting so that's probably why he was using the actual posted article as his reference".


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