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    Re: Northwestern students, faculty, plan Saberi hunger strike

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Chastising people for trying to help whilst doing nothing yourself is even more lame.
    Starving yourself is still doing nothing and lame.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Northwestern students, faculty, plan Saberi hunger strike

    The only way to get hunger strikes to work is to apply them against the people you want to change, not to take them up yourselves. But then it's called a siege and not a hunger strike.

    Anyway, I never got the point of things like hunger strikes, it's not going to do anything. Iran doesn't care if those people don't eat and it's not like they're gonna not eat till they die either.
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    Re: Northwestern students, faculty, plan Saberi hunger strike

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Starving yourself is still doing nothing and lame.
    It's symbolic. Here, education is a good thing:

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolism]Symbolism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
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    Re: Northwestern students, faculty, plan Saberi hunger strike

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yeah, and gives them a piece of his mind.
    I was hoping they'd keep him.
    After all its his fault if they do..he was warned.

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    Re: Northwestern students, faculty, plan Saberi hunger strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    I was referring to TheNextEra's "the hell with them they deserve it" routine.

    That was a typical Left-Liberal, New-Liberal, or as I prefer to call them Far Left response.
    Actually the "typical liberal" response would be to have the U.S. government do something about it since these people screwed up and didn't listen to the warnings.

    The conservative thing would be to say they were given the warnings, didn't listen to them, so now they have to deal with it

    I think you have your ideologies mixed up here.

    So let me ask you Triad, when the government says don't travel to a country because it isn't safe for Americans, and you ignore that warning, you think the government should do something about it even though you ignored the warning?

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    Re: Northwestern students, faculty, plan Saberi hunger strike

    There's a difference between 'Classic' Liberal and 'New' liberal.

    Haven't seen a classic liberal barring maybe Alan Colmes and Micheal Kinsley in a while.




    So let me ask you Triad, when the government says don't travel to a country because it isn't safe for Americans, and you ignore that warning, you think the government should do something about it even though you ignored the warning?
    Yes, the USA should not abandon its citizens.

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    Re: Northwestern students, faculty, plan Saberi hunger strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    There's a difference between 'Classic' Liberal and 'New' liberal.

    Haven't seen a classic liberal barring maybe Alan Colmes and Micheal Kinsley in a while.
    They're not "classic liberals", they're "sixties liberals". A classic liberal doesn't support any form of government mandated socialism. Libertarians exemplify "classic" liberalism.



    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    Yes, the USA should not abandon its citizens.
    Dumb broad goes to Iran, breaks Iran's laws, gets arrested. The US is limited to what it can legally do. Dumb broad is a "journalist", so suddenly it becomes a media circus, as if she can't be replaced. So more dumb people decide to not eat for a while, as if anyone in Iran will care. Somebody send them a pizza, then eat it in front of them.

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    Re: Northwestern students, faculty, plan Saberi hunger strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The only way to get hunger strikes to work is to apply them against the people you want to change, not to take them up yourselves. But then it's called a siege and not a hunger strike.

    Anyway, I never got the point of things like hunger strikes, it's not going to do anything. Iran doesn't care if those people don't eat and it's not like they're gonna not eat till they die either.
    Hunger strikes work against people who have been civilized too long because they feel sorry for the damn fools doing it.

    Hunger strikes do not work against people who don't care. Iran is one such place.

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    Re: Northwestern students, faculty, plan Saberi hunger strike

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Chastising people for trying to help whilst doing nothing yourself is even more lame.
    Why shouldn't someone be chastised for bringing a teacup of water to a barn fire?

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    Re: Northwestern students, faculty, plan Saberi hunger strike

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    It's symbolic. Here, education is a good thing:

    Symbolism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Symbolism is still not doing anything. Iran doesn't give a rats ass about college kids in America. Why would anyone in some other country give a **** that someone over here is starving themselves. This kind of thing is nothing more than a publicity stunt by lame ass college kids to make themselves feel better. Last I heard Jesse Jackson is going to Iran to help the jail journalist.
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    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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