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Religious tend to support torture more often

I'm not sure what to make of that. I'm hesitant to assume religion somehow causes people to support torture.

I'm more inclined to believe that it has more to do with political affiliation than religion.
 
Well no-one has tortured more people than the religious authorities I guess. But in America, more religious people seem to be conservative. Guess that when Jesus said love your neighbour he was wasting his time.
 
I think a lot of it has to do with the Christian tendency to embrace torture as an article of faith, as witnessed by the huge success of the movie "Passion of the Christ", which revelled in the supposed torture of Jesus. After seeing what their Savior went through, Christians would consider waterboarding a leisure activity.
 
Well no-one has tortured more people than the religious authorities I guess. But in America, more religious people seem to be conservative. Guess that when Jesus said love your neighbour he was wasting his time.

I suspect who has tortured and mass murdered more people were atheists such as Stalin, Mao, Hitler...

nice try at supporting religious bigotry though.
 
I suspect who has tortured and mass murdered more people were atheists such as Stalin, Mao, Hitler...

nice try at supporting religious bigotry though.

I'm not a bigot, just stating a fact. You may have forgotten the tortures of religious authority in the dark ages and the middle ages, but I haven't forgotten. Hitler wasn't an atheist by the way.

How come nowadays religous people tend to support torture than athesists then joko? Whats the reason? Or are you going to avoid the topic of conversation just to bash me?
 
I suspect who has tortured and mass murdered more people were atheists such as Stalin, Mao, Hitler...

nice try at supporting religious bigotry though.

Mass murder aside, I would bet the Catholic church has tortured more people than all those dictators combined. The Inquisition lasted for 600 years.
 
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Interesting, but it has more to do with political affiliation than Christianity. I mean it is a well known fact the majority of Christians tend to be Republicans or at least lean to conservatism.

As far as condoning torture, please. You are trying to compare the inquisition in Europe to 20th century Russia. This is like trying to compare the Crusades to Desert Storm, just silly.
 
I wonder what percentage of homosexuals in this country support torture? Seeing as how their's is the only demographic that seems to matter anymore...
 
I think a lot of it has to do with the Christian tendency to embrace torture as an article of faith, as witnessed by the huge success of the movie "Passion of the Christ", which revelled in the supposed torture of Jesus. After seeing what their Savior went through, Christians would consider waterboarding a leisure activity.

Could you possibly in more insulting or ignorant of Christians?


What I find most fascinating, is that those most likely to protest "torture" also tend to support abortion and are against the Death Penalty. Hang on, I'm making a point here.

WARNGING the following contain: General rule here folks, if it doesn't apply to you personally, good for you.

Which makes you wonder really, where the true face of evil is here.

On one side, you have pro-life, pro-enhanced interrogation, pro-death penalty religious folks who believe innocent life trumps all.

And the other side of the coin, those who believe that innocent life is expendable. Yeah, "it's just a lump of cells". Sure. "We cannot put him to death, what if he is innocent??" 2.21 recidivism rate of killers means 2.1 people will die. "we cannot torture people to get information that saves lives. That's immoral! It's better we do not torture and people die, at least our values will be intact!"


All of you lefties that have your panties in a wad because W used some enhanced techniques to save possibly, yes even your life, innocent peoples lives... You people scare me. I mean that. You berate religious folks for supporting "torture" yet you ignore the reality of the world around you.

You people claim you are better because you don't believe in religion, yet you cannot face the reality there are some REALLY nasty people out that WOULD saw your head off if they got their hands on you.

And who dies to save your asses? Conservative religious folks tend to populate the Armed Forces. Didn't meet too many atheist while I served.
 
What is more Christ-like then torture? Honestly come on now. Christ would be the one filling up a bucket of water and setting up the ironing board.
 
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Could you possibly in more insulting or ignorant of Christians?


What I find most fascinating, is that those most likely to protest "torture" also tend to support abortion and are against the Death Penalty. Hang on, I'm making a point here.

WARNGING the following contain: General rule here folks, if it doesn't apply to you personally, good for you.

Which makes you wonder really, where the true face of evil is here.

On one side, you have pro-life, pro-enhanced interrogation, pro-death penalty religious folks who believe innocent life trumps all.

And the other side of the coin, those who believe that innocent life is expendable. Yeah, "it's just a lump of cells". Sure. "We cannot put him to death, what if he is innocent??" 2.21 recidivism rate of killers means 2.1 people will die. "we cannot torture people to get information that saves lives. That's immoral! It's better we do not torture and people die, at least our values will be intact!"


All of you lefties that have your panties in a wad because W used some enhanced techniques to save possibly, yes even your life, innocent peoples lives... You people scare me. I mean that. You berate religious folks for supporting "torture" yet you ignore the reality of the world around you.

You people claim you are better because you don't believe in religion, yet you cannot face the reality there are some REALLY nasty people out that WOULD saw your head off if they got their hands on you.

And who dies to save your asses? Conservative religious folks tend to populate the Armed Forces. Didn't meet too many atheist while I served.

Bravo! Dr. Savage is more and more right, "Liberalism is a mental disorder."

You made more sense in one sentence than all the leftists combined on this thread.
 
And who dies to save your asses? Conservative religious folks tend to populate the Armed Forces. Didn't meet too many atheist while I served.
I actually knew a couple in my platoon the first week in boot camp. Strangely enough, after climbing Mount Motherf****r, they started reading the Bible and talking about getting baptized.
 
Bravo! Dr. Savage is more and more right, "Liberalism is a mental disorder."

You made more sense in one sentence than all the leftists combined on this thread.

It ticks me off when they go hop on their High Horses because "we, unlike you sky fairy, bible thumping, intolerant ignorant fools, believe that people have a right not to be tortured. See where religion leaves you now?"

While they completely ignore the fact that there are really nasty SOB's out there that have one goal, convert us, or kill us. There is no other way, no third option.

Yeah, KSM got water poured over his face 183 times. I bet he would have rather not gone through such. I bet it was damned scary, uncomfortable, and really unpleseant. To hear these lefties rant about the situation, you'd have thought we plucked this guy off the street, and he woke up being water boarded till he admitted what W and Co. wanted to hear.

They ignore the fact that the enhanced interrogation was done under probably the most supervised, regulated and limited scope of any "torture" in the history of mankind.

But that isn't good enough for them. Had Algore been President, and this occurred, they'd be lauding the "Gore, sadly necessary strenuous extraction of information done in the most humane manner ever in the history of man."

But no, it's W, the "evil" President. So emotionally, they are incapable of stopping for even a moment and being honest. Is it lamentable that we had to do these things? Yeah. But it's not our fault, it's those that take up the mantle of "terrorist" and wish harm upon us that to blame.
 
The analysis is based on a Pew Research Center survey of 742 American adults conducted April 14-21.

It did not include analysis of groups other than white evangelicals

742 is not representative nor accurate.
This is BS.
 
I wonder what percentage of homosexuals in this country support torture? Seeing as how their's is the only demographic that seems to matter anymore...

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Zero to do with the topic. Please do not troll the thread.
 
Religious, atheist, Communist, Capitalist, Catholic, Protestant, Islamist, barbarian, civilized....

Have nothing to do with supporting torture. Supporting torture has more to do with the dark side of human nature itself.
 
I think a lot of it has to do with the Christian tendency to embrace torture as an article of faith, as witnessed by the huge success of the movie "Passion of the Christ", which revelled in the supposed torture of Jesus. After seeing what their Savior went through, Christians would consider waterboarding a leisure activity.

And, we can now add extreme religious bigotry to your profile. Very nice.
 
What is more Christ-like then torture? Honestly come on now. Christ would be the one filling up a bucket of water and setting up the ironing board.

That is offensive.
 
Religious, atheist, Communist, Capitalist, Catholic, Protestant, Islamist, barbarian, civilized....

Have nothing to do with supporting torture. Supporting torture has more to do with the dark side of human nature itself.

Correction: supporting torture has more to do with realizing that protecting one's home and country is at times an unpleasant business that requires a tad more than wearing yellow ribbons.
 
Insulting Christians is okay here, remember this. However, should you mention homosexuals, well, can't have that.

If you attack homosexuals we will defend them.
If we attack christainity you will defend it.
See, all equal.

Grow a thicker skin.
 
I don't think religion makes people want to torture people.

Put I do find it ironic that these religions came to be peaceful yet some of their followers feel its ok to do harm to others.

I thought every Christain was meant to ask "What would Jesus do?" and follow that. Who's example is better to follow? Would Jesus torture people? If anyone is against torture it would be Jesus (depeicted in the gospels), since he was flayed tortured and nailed against a piece of wood.
 
Mass murder aside, I would bet the Catholic church has tortured more people than all those dictators combined. The Inquisition lasted for 600 years.
Do you have reliable data to support that assertion?
 
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