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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    This was a pretty interesting read.

    Survey: Support for terror suspect torture differs among the faithful - CNN.com

    The statistics show that the more often you attend church... the more likely to support torture. When I read this I found it interesting but not surprising. Thoughts?
    Interesting. And believable. A majority of Americans used to attend church. Now I think it's down to a regimented few. I have a theory Republicans are more regimented and Democrats are more laid back. So maybe not as many Democrats go to church any more as GOP'rs do.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    I think we just oughta "man-up" and put this torture crap to rest.

    Did we torture these guys? Damn right we did.

    Is it the image we want to portray to the world as the "American way?" Probably not. But on the other hand, it might be.

    It was once said, "Walk softly and carry a big stick."

    When it's not enough to be the breadbasket of the world, donating huge portions of our tax dollars to foreign humanitarian causes, leading the globe in civilized negotiations and arbitrations, and still a faction of humanity thinks we deserve to have thousands of our people burning and falling out of high rise buildings and from the skies, I say "screw them."

    Waterboarding? Wah, wah, wah......

    If it will save one American life, I got no problem with them pulling their fingernails out or staking them to a Texas anthill.

    I'd prefer to be the country everybody loves and respects. I think as far as global benevolency goes, we do ok. But money can't buy you love. So, if all the "peace, love and understanding (and money) " approach don't work then whip out the big stick.

    I know that the stats are against me on this one. There are a lot of valid arguments and facts that go against "enhanced" intelligence gathering. Even my brother, who is in the business, says torture is counter productive.

    But still, I can't muster any sympathy for these "detainees." I guess I'm the odd man out on this one. I could care less if they diced them, sliced them, and julianne fried them.

    I'll work on it.

    Oh yes.....

    I am not a church-go-er in the slightest. Don't hang ths on the religious nuts.

    Just man up and say", "Hell yeah we did it! And we're gonna do it again, you smelly bastards, if we have to!"

    I could live with that.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    The Jacobins rivaled the inquisition in a few years and it was not the inquisition that did most of the killing, the secular authorities did that. The inquisitions death tolls over centuries in many countries is only in the tens of thousands I think.
    Again, I was speaking of the numbers that the Inquisition tortured over a period of 600 years, not the people they killed. Obviously, history's mass murderers outrank the Catholic Church in body count.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Just man up and say", "Hell yeah we did it! And we're gonna do it again, you smelly bastards, if we have to!"

    I could live with that.
    I would hope this country is better than the ignorant bravado of some yahoos suggests. Half of Teddy Roosevelt's advice is to "walk softly"...I don't see any suggestion of that here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I would hope this country is better than the ignorant bravado of some yahoos suggests. Half of Teddy Roosevelt's advice is to "walk softly"...I don't see any suggestion of that here.
    I wouldn't pay them too much mind, since according to all polls conducted over the past year the hawks are in flight, so to speak. Of course, I'm sure many of them probably want to pull out for practical but non-dovish reasons (I would like to find some hard data to support or refute this theory of mine), so it could very well be that we Americans are a rather warlike society in general.

    Guess that's what happens when you're not getting your borders overrun periodically, though you'd think that sometimes reason can take supplant the role of learning the hard way.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Why not? Uniterians do it all the time.
    Uniterians aren't real people. They are the ptsdkids of our world. Religious trolls if you'd like.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    The peaciniks will reign until the next big terror attack and people start asking "could we have stopped this?" There you go, a class action lawsuit against Obama and Co. because they failed to use enhanced interrogation to save lives.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The peaciniks will reign until the next big terror attack and people start asking "could we have stopped this?" There you go, a class action lawsuit against Obama and Co. because they failed to use enhanced interrogation to save lives.
    When was the last time suing the Federal Government actually worked?
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    When was the last time suing the Federal Government actually worked?
    Can't get blood out of a turnip.

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    Question Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The peaciniks will reign until the next big terror attack and people start asking "could we have stopped this?" There you go, a class action lawsuit against Obama and Co. because they failed to use enhanced interrogation to save lives.
    You mean, kinda like how the (mostly conservative) hawks in this country failed to see how decades of disastrously and cruelly unjust hegemonic American foreign policy could have fueled the desperate hatred and desire for retaliation that lay at the roots of the 9/11 attacks?
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