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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Mass murder aside, I would bet the Catholic church has tortured more people than all those dictators combined. The Inquisition lasted for 600 years.



    Stalin killed what 100 million? you fail.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    Once upon a time you could read the news and expect more.

    Amen to that, The media is so partisan today. Thank god for the Wall Street Journal, the National Review, and Fox News. Without them we would only ever hear the liberal dribal spewing from the majority of the media which tows the lefts party line.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
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    Either that, or it's simply just not funny.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Ah, the Left; those paragons of tolerance and acceptance, love and civility, politically correct terminology and so forth.

    Unless you're not Leftist, of course, then its perfectly okay to insult your God, your religion, your politics, your intellect, and anything else.

    When people make disparaging remarks at work about Leftist-protected-classes, they get sent to "Sensitivity training". When Leftists make even worse remarks about things dear to the hearts of non-Leftists, they get a pat on the back. Nice.

    Funny how most religious people I know are far more polite to atheists, than the reverse.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Funny how most religious people I know are far more polite to atheists, than the reverse.

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    I have witnessed the opposite.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Stalin killed what 100 million? you fail.
    700,000 in the Great Purges, around 1.5 million deaths in Siberia, up to 1.5 million in the Russian famines, perhaps 4 million in the Ukranian famines; most historians say from 20-30 million, and the highest estimate I found was 60 million, but that was uncommonly high. Most of these fell to famines or cold weather and weren't directly tortured. Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls

    Remember that Stalin had fewer than 200 million people under his control, and your number begins to appear ridiculous. I won't use the word "fail", but I certainly could.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Edify_Always_In_All_Ways View Post
    700,000 in the Great Purges, around 1.5 million deaths in Siberia, up to 1.5 million in the Russian famines, perhaps 4 million in the Ukranian famines; most historians say from 20-30 million, and the highest estimate I found was 60 million, but that was uncommonly high. Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls

    Remember that Stalin had fewer than 200 million people under his control, and your number begins to appear ridiculous. I won't use the word "fail", but I certainly could.



    you're right, my bad.... but hardley "fail"

    even at 30-60 million, will's bigotry and lies are noted.


    communism, when you add stalin, pol pot, etc, reaches 100 million.


    In sum the communist probably have murdered something like 110,000,000, or near two-thirds of all those killed by all governments, quasi-governments, and guerrillas from 1900 to 1987. Of course, the world total itself it shocking. It is several times the 38,000,000 battle-dead that have been killed in all this century's international and domestic wars. Yet the probable number of murders by the Soviet Union alone--one communist country-- well surpasses this cost of war. And those murders of communist China almost equal it.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    30 Million is still more then the inquisition managed to kill.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I think a lot of it has to do with the Christian tendency to embrace torture as an article of faith, as witnessed by the huge success of the movie "Passion of the Christ", which revelled in the supposed torture of Jesus. After seeing what their Savior went through, Christians would consider waterboarding a leisure activity.
    I'm not a practicing Christian, but I find this offensive and absurd. Trying to draw a causal effect of religion and views of torture is absurd. I would agree they are correlated, but the causal argument you proposed it ridiculous. Most practicing Christians tend to he Republicans. Republicans tend to have a different view on torture than Democrats.

    Imagine how offensive it would be if someone took the issue of abortion and said that gays, blacks, union employees, any group who tend to vote Democrat, and then claim that they support killing babies. Then took it one step further and attempted to justify it through some misconstrued logic. It shows a lot about someone's character when they say things like this.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Stalin killed what 100 million? you fail.

    I said "mass murder aside", and was referring only to torture. Do you read messages or just bang out replies without thinking?

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