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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Here's the Bible's definition of religion. Welcome to religion my friend.
    Well the I guess according to this part :

    If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless.
    You're full of ****.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    ] If an atheist is good to their fellow man are they religious?
    No.

    Is that a tenet of atheism that indicates that to be true?
    There are no tenets in atheism.


    No, so the answer is no.
    I'm not arguing what the definition of "is" is, you're arguing it's either "black or white". It isn't.
    Of course it is. You're arguing that my wife is not religious because she doesn't go to church every single Sunday. While I'm arguing that the only standard for being religious is believing in a mystical creator like oh...say....God.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Why would you attend a religious service if you're not actually religious?
    1) The Girls
    2) Tradition/Social Obligation
    3) The meal after
    4) Play with your friends (what do you think Obama did as a kid at the Mosque?)
    5) Exchange presents on Christmas Eve
    6) The Easter egg hunt
    7) Choir

    I can keep going. There are plenty of reasons to go Church that actually have relatively little to do with God or religion
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
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    I think Steven Wright is a GREAT comedic writer. Of course, my sense of humor is pretty twisted too.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    1) The Girls
    2) Tradition/Social Obligation
    3) The meal after
    4) Play with your friends (what do you think Obama did as a kid at the Mosque?)
    5) Exchange presents on Christmas Eve
    6) The Easter egg hunt
    7) Choir

    I can keep going. There are plenty of reasons to go Church that actually have relatively little to do with God or religion
    Yeah for some reason I doubt this poll went after the under 18 demographic.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yeah for some reason I doubt this poll went after the under 18 demographic.
    Fair enough. Some of those are for kids like 4, 5 and 6. However, you'd be surprised just how many 18-24 age group uses Church as a dating pool.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No.
    It was rhetorical, but as I thought.



    There are no tenets in atheism.
    It was rhetorical, but as I thought.

    Of course it is. You're arguing that my wife is not religious because she doesn't go to church every single Sunday. While I'm arguing that the only standard for being religious is believing in a mystical creator like oh...say....God.
    No, I'm arguing the opposite, and here's the proof in an earlier post:

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I have not attended a religious service in 20+ years, and am still one of the most religious people I know...and people who know me would agree.
    Believing in God is not the only standard. Nor is going to church. Believing in God is one standard. Others depend on your religion.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    This was a pretty interesting read.

    Survey: Support for terror suspect torture differs among the faithful - CNN.com

    The statistics show that the more often you attend church... the more likely to support torture. When I read this I found it interesting but not surprising. Thoughts?
    Actually it American religious people that tend to support it more and it only 12%(or was it 8%?) more. Could that simply represent the ideological pathways within America? The religious are more likely to be the usual Republican rightwingers and the less religious more likely to be the democrat liberals.

    Hardly a great indictment of religion as a whole.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    I think its a really small racist poll being used to demonize a specific group of people and faiths.


    The analysis is based on a Pew Research Center survey of 742 American adults conducted April 14-21. It did not include analysis of groups other than white evangelicals, white non-Hispanic Catholics, white mainline Protestants and the religiously unaffiliated, because the sample size was too small. See results of the survey
    Now lets see them do the black voodoo one....and see the left say looks like blacks are kooks who support torture.


    (Fuel for the Far Left/Left..who are currently on a campaign to demonize Christianity especially if the practitioners are white. They chicken out hard if there's any kind of color involved-ironicaly Obama is a good example of this.
    Hell it even relies on a murky headline. )

    Once upon a time you could read the news and expect more.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Believing in God is not the only standard. Nor is going to church. Believing in God is one standard. Others depend on your religion.
    So if you don't believe in God you can still be religious? What next? You don't have to believe that Jesus is the son of God and still call yourself a Christian?
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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