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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    That is offensive.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Religious, atheist, Communist, Capitalist, Catholic, Protestant, Islamist, barbarian, civilized....

    Have nothing to do with supporting torture. Supporting torture has more to do with the dark side of human nature itself.
    Correction: supporting torture has more to do with realizing that protecting one's home and country is at times an unpleasant business that requires a tad more than wearing yellow ribbons.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Insulting Christians is okay here, remember this. However, should you mention homosexuals, well, can't have that.
    If you attack homosexuals we will defend them.
    If we attack christainity you will defend it.
    See, all equal.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    I don't think religion makes people want to torture people.

    Put I do find it ironic that these religions came to be peaceful yet some of their followers feel its ok to do harm to others.

    I thought every Christain was meant to ask "What would Jesus do?" and follow that. Who's example is better to follow? Would Jesus torture people? If anyone is against torture it would be Jesus (depeicted in the gospels), since he was flayed tortured and nailed against a piece of wood.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Mass murder aside, I would bet the Catholic church has tortured more people than all those dictators combined. The Inquisition lasted for 600 years.
    Do you have reliable data to support that assertion?
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    This was a pretty interesting read.

    Survey: Support for terror suspect torture differs among the faithful - CNN.com

    The statistics show that the more often you attend church... the more likely to support torture. When I read this I found it interesting but not surprising. Thoughts?
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    This was a pretty interesting read.

    Survey: Support for terror suspect torture differs among the faithful - CNN.com

    The statistics show that the more often you attend church... the more likely to support torture. When I read this I found it interesting but not surprising. Thoughts?
    I have problems with the study. Just because one attends religious services, does not mean they are religious. I have not attended a religious service in 20+ years, and am still one of the most religious people I know...and people who know me would agree.

    Nextly, we here at DP have been arguing the definition of torture for a couple of years in many threads and still haven't come to a consensus. Since we are, obviously, the most enlightened folks (or at least most of us) around, I doubt that Pew Research would have solidified a definition, if we here at DP can't.

    Lastly, a small sample size, and the fact that evangelicals, the more extremist of religions seem to be skewing the statistics all mar the data.

    I don't take this information very seriously.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I think a lot of it has to do with the Christian tendency to embrace torture as an article of faith, as witnessed by the huge success of the movie "Passion of the Christ", which revelled in the supposed torture of Jesus. After seeing what their Savior went through, Christians would consider waterboarding a leisure activity.
    Certainly one of the most nonsensical posts at DP. Prove the connection between the success of the movie "Passion of the Christ" and "revelling" in Jesus' torture. Substantive links will suffice.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Could you possibly in more insulting or ignorant of Christians?


    What I find most fascinating, is that those most likely to protest "torture" also tend to support abortion and are against the Death Penalty. Hang on, I'm making a point here.

    WARNGING the following contain: General rule here folks, if it doesn't apply to you personally, good for you.

    Which makes you wonder really, where the true face of evil is here.

    On one side, you have pro-life, pro-enhanced interrogation, pro-death penalty religious folks who believe innocent life trumps all.

    And the other side of the coin, those who believe that innocent life is expendable. Yeah, "it's just a lump of cells". Sure. "We cannot put him to death, what if he is innocent??" 2.21 recidivism rate of killers means 2.1 people will die. "we cannot torture people to get information that saves lives. That's immoral! It's better we do not torture and people die, at least our values will be intact!"


    All of you lefties that have your panties in a wad because W used some enhanced techniques to save possibly, yes even your life, innocent peoples lives... You people scare me. I mean that. You berate religious folks for supporting "torture" yet you ignore the reality of the world around you.

    You people claim you are better because you don't believe in religion, yet you cannot face the reality there are some REALLY nasty people out that WOULD saw your head off if they got their hands on you.

    And who dies to save your asses? Conservative religious folks tend to populate the Armed Forces. Didn't meet too many atheist while I served.
    One thing to be clear about. Some of your comments are very prejudicial. I am a lefty. I am also very religious. Try not to generalize, because you are not accurate. I know plenty of lefties, like me, who are quite religious.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by DamnYankee View Post
    Bravo! Dr. Savage is more and more right, "Liberalism is a mental disorder."

    You made more sense in one sentence than all the leftists combined on this thread.
    Actually, as a licensed therapist, I can tell you that conservatism is a mental disorder.

    Now that we have dispensed with the idiotic hyperpartisan hackery, do you have anything of substance to add to this thread?
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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