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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Sure it can be, but it is not necessary.
    All things being equal, it must be.

    It's only unnecessary if all things are NOT equal, and some other agent of socialization has risen to fulfill the void.

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    To say I have an underdeveloped moral compass because I'm irreligious is unvalidated rot.
    I haven't made any claim about you.

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    Then that assertion should be easy to prove. Go ahead, support the claim.
    The OP itself is evidence.

    When asked for an alternative rational, you offered only mental disorder, and your argument was dismantled.

    I invite you again to offer an alternative reasoning for the findings of the poll, and strongly suggest that you STOP personalizing the arguments you read.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    All things being equal, it must be.

    It's only unnecessary if all things are NOT equal, and some other agent of socialization has risen to fulfill the void.



    I haven't made any claim about you.



    The OP itself is evidence.

    When asked for an alternative rational, you offered only mental disorder, and your argument was dismantled.

    I invite you again to offer an alternative reasoning for the findings of the poll, and strongly suggest that you STOP personalizing the arguments you read.
    This is untrue. My mental illness argument was offered ONLY as a counter to your claim that the religious have more ethically sound minds.

    To the poll I offered one and only one argument and that was that conservatives are more likely to not see waterboarding and other things as unacceptable forms of torture. Religious folks are overwhelmingly conservative and people are sheep. So as the party blowhards go on tv and mock waterboarding the sheeple follow along. Now that's not to say that there aren't conservatives who researched it, thought about it deeply, and arrived at the same conclusion as the loudest blowhards on the right. However it's easy to see why the religious more often support torture, it's because conservatives more often support torture. I don't think God has anything to do with it. Just like more ice cream being sold in July in the US has nothing to do with the month of July and everything to do with the weather here in July. Somewhere else it might be cold in July and icecream sales are down. So July is not the cause of higher ice cream sales. Make sense?

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Just curious, I wonder what would happen if I started a thread "Athiests/non-believers commit crimes more often".....



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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    The presumption that Communists are NOT atheists requires a stunning level ignorance. What part of the Communist manifesto regarding religion do you NOT comprehend?
    He asked someone to prove that the killings were done in the name of atheism. Please do so or rescind your ad homs.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Just curious, I wonder what would happen if I started a thread "Athiests/non-believers commit crimes more often".....



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    It would probably be incorrect. How much of the prison population is religious?
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote:Originally Posted by Truth Detector
    The presumption that Communists are NOT atheists requires a stunning level ignorance. What part of the Communist manifesto regarding religion do you NOT comprehend?

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    He asked someone to prove that the killings were done in the name of atheism. Please do so or rescind your ad homs.
    So you believe that a clever play on words is a substitute for honest debate?

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    So you believe that a clever play on words is a substitute for honest debate?
    Deflection noted. Feel free to support the argument that Stalin, Mao, etc. killed people in the name of atheism. I won't hold my breath.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    It would probably be incorrect. How much of the prison population is religious?
    Um...having some experience with the prison system, I would say that most convicts GET religion sometime between arrest and trial...and that 90% of the them lose it again about four days after getting released.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Um...having some experience with the prison system, I would say that most convicts GET religion sometime between arrest and trial...and that 90% of the them lose it again about four days after getting released.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    He asked someone to prove that the killings were done in the name of atheism. Please do so or rescind your ad homs.
    They were done in the name of Atheistic, social engineering and attempts to completely uproot past social structures and belief systems.
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