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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    And, we can now add extreme religious bigotry to your profile. Very nice.
    You make that sound like a bad thing...

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Insulting Christians is okay here, remember this. However, should you mention homosexuals, well, can't have that.
    You mean like the way atheists, democrats and liberals are insulted? Need some cheese with that whine?

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

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    Religious tend to support torture more often Quit the personal attacks. An infraction has been handed out and I'll be keeping an eye on the thread. Thread bans will follow for those who can't debate the topic without having an emotional meltdown.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Didn't see it. Thank you. My comment stands for the general population as a reminder, but I retract it's direction towards you.
    Oh cools, so all we have to do before we insult people is make a disclaimer? I'll put one in my sig so I never have to worry about forgetting it.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Stalin killed what 100 million? you fail.
    Not in the name of atheism. YOU fail, again.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Ah, the Left; those paragons of tolerance and acceptance, love and civility, politically correct terminology and so forth.

    Unless you're not Leftist, of course, then its perfectly okay to insult your God, your religion, your politics, your intellect, and anything else.

    When people make disparaging remarks at work about Leftist-protected-classes, they get sent to "Sensitivity training". When Leftists make even worse remarks about things dear to the hearts of non-Leftists, they get a pat on the back. Nice.

    Funny how most religious people I know are far more polite to atheists, than the reverse.

    G.
    Funny, I see it exactly opposite. EXACTLY opposite.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    30 Million is still more then the inquisition managed to kill.
    But not more than the religious have managed to kill in the name of their various gods.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    FWIW I absolutely DID NOT state that the average religious person is insane. I specifically went out of my way to note that I personally don't believe being moderately religious or irreligious has any bearing on either your sanity or the soundness of your ethical compass.
    Why then even mention genuine mental disorder at all?

    Why do religious folks oppose abortion: because we hate women.
    Why do religious folks oppose gay marriage: because we hate gays.
    Why do religious folks support torture: because we're clinically insane (according to you).

    I am so sick of it. Give it a ....ing rest.

    Leave these kinds of posts for trolls.

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    As to the torture question I have no real comment on it. I was just following the thread and decided to object to your prior premises. In regards to the OP I think it's more a political thing than a religious thing personally. Religious folks (esp. regular church goers)tend to be more conservative. More conservatives tend to not view the waterboarding as torture and it's an issue that has been overly politicized and discussed in an overly emotional polarized way.
    If mental instability was not your best argument, then why lead with it? You straw-man yourself.

    I agree with you here, however, that religion is once again a correlation, not a causation.

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    Another problem with the poll: WATER BOARDING IS NOT TORTURE!
    Neither is stacking prisoners up in pyramids torture. Neither is allowing a K9 to bark at them while threatening to let it kill them torture. Panties on the head is not torture.

    The poll question needs to use a specific example, such as applying a high pressure water stream to the ear, rupturing the ear drum, for the expressed point and purpose of causing extreme pain.

    Also, the question needs to specify what “important information” is. Where a wanted leader is is not as “important” as the location of a dirty bomb in NY city set to go off in 2 hours.

    The person asked is left entirely to fill in the blanks themselves, so we don’t even know if the majority of the public are agreeing on the same thing.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Ah yes, we evangelicals are terribly cruel. It's horrible that we often run Crisis Pregnancy Centers, trying to help young girls with unwanted babies to deal with it without abortions
    Oh pul-ease... I believe that's more about keeping them from getting an abortion than caring about them. What kind of help are they offered once they leave? Do you give them financial support? Free medical for the mother and baby? If so, for how long, if not, why not?

    We are heartless for running soup kitchens and outreach programs and paying for them out of our pockets.
    So you can proselytize to them.

    Our cruelty knows no bounds when we send missionaries into the Amazon, bringing not only the Bible but medical care and other aid to primitive natives at great personal peril.
    Blah, it's all so you can proselytize and nothing more.

    Sometimes, we even go around knocking on doors and inviting people to come to church on Sunday...OH THE HORRORS!!!
    Again, so you can proselytize. You don't do anything without that string attached which means it's not genuine.

    You want a free meal? You gotta take the pamphlet, or sit and listen to the wonders of your religion...

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    But not more than the religious have managed to kill in the name of their various gods.
    I beg to differ. The most wide spread mass killings occurred in the 20th Century in Countries where God was either erased by, or secondary to the state. NK, Cuba, USSR, China, Nazi Germany, Vietnam, Cambodia...
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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