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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Religious tend to support torture more often.

    How does an atheist like myself fit in?

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    Religious tend to support torture more often.

    How does an atheist like myself fit in?
    You tell us...
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    Religious tend to support torture more often.

    How does an atheist like myself fit in?
    Atheists seem to be lilly-white in the pantheon of torture.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Atheists seem to be lilly-white in the pantheon of torture.
    I don't support torture at all.
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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

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    I have problems with the study. Just because one attends religious services, does not mean they are religious. I have not attended a religious service in 20+ years, and am still one of the most religious people I know...and people who know me would agree.

    Nextly, we here at DP have been arguing the definition of torture for a couple of years in many threads and still haven't come to a consensus. Since we are, obviously, the most enlightened folks (or at least most of us) around, I doubt that Pew Research would have solidified a definition, if we here at DP can't.

    Lastly, a small sample size, and the fact that evangelicals, the more extremist of religions seem to be skewing the statistics all mar the data.

    I don't take this information very seriously.
    My issues as well. The first thing I thought of was "what was their definition of torture".

    If I got called and was asked if I support flaying skin off people, systematically raping someone, or shoving bamboo under ones finger nails I'd say unequivically "no" whether you told me they were guilty and had information or not.

    If I got a call asking if I supported waterboarding, massive sleep deprivation, or other forms of "mental torture" you'd probably get a "maybe" or even a "yes" from me depending on the situation you presented me if you told me they were guilty and had information or not.

    If you called talking about people being kept in relatively small spaces, given only the most basic in food and water, not allowed to have their religious texts to read, didn't get to go outside often, got slapped in the face occasionally, or were yelled at I'd say "yeah, no issue".

    "Torture" as its used now is so broad its hard to ask like that. Its like asking "Would you ever kill someone?". In cold blood? No. In defense of my country? Likely. In protecting my family? Without question. If I was starving, I'd hop enot but hard to answer that. If it was Hitler, yeah probably. If it was Nancy Pelosi, no, though I'd snicker at the thought of back handing her. Its ambiguous and poor for giving an actual useful poll.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    So... just curious.

    Would forcing someone to listen to Barry Manilow 24/7 constitute torture?

    I think it would. But I have no objection to them doing it.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    So... just curious.

    Would forcing someone to listen to Barry Manilow 24/7 constitute torture?

    I think it would. But I have no objection to them doing it.

    Yes, behind Captain America's cool, muscular exterior, lies the blackest of hearts.
    I went on tour once with Barry for Rolling Stone. At first I thought it would be torture. It turned out he was one of the greatest guys I ever worked with in the photo biz.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    So... just curious.

    Would forcing someone to listen to Barry Manilow 24/7 constitute torture?

    I think it would. But I have no objection to them doing it.

    Yes, behind Captain America's cool, muscular exterior, lies the blackest of hearts.
    Merely suggesting one be forced to listen to Manilow 24/7 should be construed as cruel and inhumane!

    I am willing to bet that if these "confessed" Terrorists were given the choice, they would prefer water boarding.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    So... just curious.

    Would forcing someone to listen to Barry Manilow 24/7 constitute torture?

    I think it would. But I have no objection to them doing it.

    Yes, behind Captain America's cool, muscular exterior, lies the blackest of hearts.
    That method (aka. Barryboarding) is quite possibly one of the most horrible torture methods known to man. One would have to be truly diabolical to employ such a nightmarish technique.

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    Re: Religious tend to support torture more often

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    You tell us...
    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Atheists seem to be lilly-white in the pantheon of torture.



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