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    Re: Despite Reports, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was Not Waterboarded 183 Times

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Though I personally don't agree with waterboarding I am glad to see they are still following guidelines and that the torture being inflicted isn't some underground room where no camera's or records are allowed, as some may try to have us believe.
    You make it sound like terrorist have rights, and deserve to be treated well. No, you make it sound like they are innocent victims of a mean government.


    So sad to see that mentality among the populace now.

    You do realize these men had information on attacks that could have killed innocent people right? Or does that not matter?
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    Re: Despite Reports, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was Not Waterboarded 183 Times

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You make it sound like terrorist have rights, and deserve to be treated well. No, you make it sound like they are innocent victims of a mean government.

    So sad to see that mentality among the populace now.

    You do realize these men had information on attacks that could have killed innocent people right? Or does that not matter?
    They do have inherit rights as human beings and we have a moral code we should adhere to as good natured human beings. Also, I know that many of these people are SUSPECTED terrorists. They may or may not be terrorists.

    I am personally sad by your mentality they these people are unquestionably terrorists based on the single fact that they are imprisoned. I am also more sad that you seem to believe that humans should be able to be tortured based solely on our government suspicions.
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    Re: Despite Reports, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was Not Waterboarded 183 Times

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    They do have inherit rights as human beings and we have a moral code we should adhere to as good natured human beings. Also, I know that many of these people are SUSPECTED terrorists. They may or may not be terrorists.

    I am personally sad by your mentality they these people are unquestionably terrorists based on the single fact that they are imprisoned. I am also more sad that you seem to believe that humans should be able to be tortured based solely on our government suspicions.
    So does this feigned "moral code" you express extend to the unborn, embryos or conducting war against another country?

    Or is this "code" of yours only for terrorists attempting to murder innocents?

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    Re: Despite Reports, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was Not Waterboarded 183 Times

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    They do have inherit rights as human beings and we have a moral code we should adhere to as good natured human beings. Also, I know that many of these people are SUSPECTED terrorists. They may or may not be terrorists.

    I am personally sad by your mentality they these people are unquestionably terrorists based on the single fact that they are imprisoned. I am also more sad that you seem to believe that humans should be able to be tortured based solely on our government suspicions.
    You'd let me and my family die instead of getting the information from a terrorist, because your AFRAID of hurting someone.

    I'd break his knee caps and get the information if needed and you'd live never knowing you were in the cross hairs, then you'd want me jailed for it.


    Who is the better person here? The one that let's people die or the one that saves lives?
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    Re: Despite Reports, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was Not Waterboarded 183 Times

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Stage 1.: Trying to make it sound like water boarding is not torture. Well newsflash, it is.
    Here, let's open your eyes: Waterboarding is not torture.

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    Re: Despite Reports, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was Not Waterboarded 183 Times

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Rofl. Well. I guess by this logic we can chop off their fingers one at a time. As long as they're still alive right? If that phrase quoted above is at any point in your process of thought part of the justification for waterboarding then you have serious issues in your life.
    For a convicted terrorist? I don't care what's done with him to extract information, so long as he winds up in the trash can when it's over.

    We really can afford to not recycle that kind of contaminated biomass.

    Is there some reason you like to coddle terrorists we should know about?

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    Re: Despite Reports, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was Not Waterboarded 183 Times

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    They do have inherit rights as human beings and we have a moral code we should adhere to as good natured human beings. Also, I know that many of these people are SUSPECTED terrorists. They may or may not be terrorists.
    They surrendered their humanity when they decided to become terrorists, hence they have none of the rights humans accord each other.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    I am personally sad by your mentality they these people are unquestionably terrorists based on the single fact that they are imprisoned. I am also more sad that you seem to believe that humans should be able to be tortured based solely on our government suspicions.
    They're not being tortured, they're being waterboarded.

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    Re: Despite Reports, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was Not Waterboarded 183 Times

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Waterboarding is not torture.
    Agreed. Pouring water on someones head isn't torture.

    The idiocy surrounding this non issue is that swimming lessons, tom foolery in a swimming pool (dunking) or even Baptism could fall into this category.

    The same applies to sleep deprivation, it's not torture.

    The liberals are so desperate to get Bush/Cheney on something, anything, is pitiful.

    So the real topic here should be:

    If these enhanced interrogation techniques are now outlawed, then Gitmo is now a safe environment in which to hold these detainee's until rulings can be made on their status.
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    Re: Despite Reports, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was Not Waterboarded 183 Times

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    So does this feigned "moral code" you express extend to the unborn, embryos or conducting war against another country?

    Or is this "code" of yours only for terrorists attempting to murder innocents?
    I wouldn't support torture of soldiers captured in a war environment either. I don't care if the other side tortured. Just because our enemy does something doesn't mean we have to lower ourselves to their level.
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    Re: Despite Reports, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was Not Waterboarded 183 Times

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    They surrendered their humanity when they decided to become terrorists, hence they have none of the rights humans accord each other.
    What exact requirements need to be met to surrendered one's humanity? And do these requirements need to be proven or just suspected for said humanity to be surrendered? You trust the government to decide if you have or have not surrendered your humanity?
    Last edited by Gibberish; 04-29-09 at 04:29 PM.
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