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    Re: The U.S. Supreme Court gives OK to government crackdown on the airwaves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I wasn't talking about uncensored television and radio, I was talking about the reasons the FCC exists and how it has to regulate the airwaves.

    Do you have any comprehension how sound waves are transmitted?

    They require one to broadcast at a specified frequency; that would be the little tuner on your radio set.

    If no one regulated who can use that frequency, the airwaves would be filled with nothing much better than interference.

    Perhaps you should do a google search on broadcast transmissions and how they get transmitted through the air.

    Radio broadcasting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I was referring mainly to censorship, but okay. I can certainly understand the purposes of that.

    But on the issue of PUBLIC airwaves, yes they most certainly do require censoring to protect minors who can tune into the programs. You see, it is not just about what YOU think, it happens to be PUBLIC and many in the PUBLIC find foul language and porn to be offensive.
    And parents are incapable of doing this? It should be their responsibility to parent their children and not the responsibility of the Federal Government.

    If you don't, that is fine and dandy, but last time I looked, the FCC didn't come to dclxvinoise and say they were going to gear their regulations to satisfy your personal tatses.
    It's not just my personal taste. I think you'd be surprised by the number of people who think that the censorship done by the FCC is completely idiotic and pointless.

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    Re: The U.S. Supreme Court gives OK to government crackdown on the airwaves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    But on the issue of PUBLIC airwaves, yes they most certainly do require censoring to protect minors who can tune into the programs. You see, it is not just about what YOU think, it happens to be PUBLIC and many in the PUBLIC find foul language and porn to be offensive.
    Do you think Nickelodeon would start dropping F-bombs and showing porn just because it was legal? Of course not. Television channels are profit-motivated just like other businesses, and they aren't going to needlessly offend their viewers. On the other hand, a network like Comedy Central might be more willing to push the envelope if it were legal, because that's what their viewers want. And that's fine. If you don't like it, don't watch Comedy Central. How hard is that?
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    Re: The U.S. Supreme Court gives OK to government crackdown on the airwaves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Do you think Nickelodeon would start dropping F-bombs and showing porn just because it was legal? Of course not. Television channels are profit-motivated just like other businesses, and they aren't going to needlessly offend their viewers. On the other hand, a network like Comedy Central might be more willing to push the envelope if it were legal, because that's what their viewers want. And that's fine. If you don't like it, don't watch Comedy Central. How hard is that?
    So you believe that someone who is 8 or even 10 years old can make the determination of what they are watching and it's content?

    How hard is it for you to comprehend that the PUBLIC airwaves are intended to be kept to a neutral content without vulgar language, sex or porn because they are PUBLIC and for those who want vulgar content, they can get that on cable or satellite channels.

    Can you guarantee every parent in the United States that their children will not tune into "adult" material if it is permitted to be broadcast on the public airwaves? NO; and neither can the FCC, therefore it is regulated.

    How difficult a concept is this for people like you?

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    Re: The U.S. Supreme Court gives OK to government crackdown on the airwaves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Yes indeed, the FCC is a Conservative organization; typical of the nonsensical bile you love to spew all over the forum.

    To all the other Libertarians and whacked out Liberals on the forum; the FCC regulates the airwaves and licenses radio and TV broadcast transmissions to maintain order.

    Imagine what it would be like if you have NO regulations; pirate programs would interfere with regular programming and the resulting mess and conflicts of airwaves would represent anarchy.

    They also regulate communication channels critical for air traffic, emergency channels and ocean navigation.

    If you want your porn and cuss words, no one is stopping you; that is why there are satellite programs and cable. The public airwaves are no place for that.

    I suggest that you inform yourselves what it is that is provided before you all go on your typical anti-Government/Anti-Conservative rants.

    About the Federal Communications Commission
    As I said, the only job of the FCC should be to enforce property rights, not censor. It's not public airwaves. Just because you can get a piece of metal of proper length and pick up electro-magnetic radiation and have a device which can interpret that radiation and compose a series of fast moving pictures and sounds out of it does not make it public. You do not pay for the use of that frequency. You can not just set up a radio station or tv station and broadcast at your whim. The use of that specific E&M spectrum is cut off to you, you may only receive a signal, you may not broadcast on in that frequency bandwidth yourself. Someone else, a private person, has paid for the rights to use that frequency and power. Thus it belongs to them, it's private.

    It's the same damned thing with the smoking ban. People call the private business public so they can make excuses as to why government has a proper role sticking its nose in where it don't belong. Conservative...liberal...neither respect property. You define it which ever way you want to get what you want. No smoking, "decency" on TV...whatever BS you can make up. Follow the money, who pays is the owner. If it's public, the public pays for it and the public can use it. If it's private, a private individual pays for it and can deny use of it at their leisure. Both are true for private business and TV/Radio. You can't go to a radio station and demand to have a program, they choose to let you speak and broadcast those words. Business owners can kick you out, they don't have to let you use the kitchen or make your own drink.

    No matter how you cut it, if you wish to acknowledge reality, you see that the "public" airwaves happen to be private. Just because you have a device that can pick up certain signals doesn't mean that what you have found is public. You only wish to define it as such so that you can excuse censorship against the People.
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    Re: The U.S. Supreme Court gives OK to government crackdown on the airwaves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    So you believe that someone who is 8 or even 10 years old can make the determination of what they are watching and it's content?
    How is that my problem? I don't care what you let your kids watch or how ****ty a parent you are so that you can't control what they watch. You want to use lousy parenting as excuse to infringe on the rights of the individual? That's ****ed up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    How hard is it for you to comprehend that the PUBLIC airwaves are intended to be kept to a neutral content without vulgar language, sex or porn because they are PUBLIC and for those who want vulgar content, they can get that on cable or satellite channels.
    How hard is it for you to comprehend that it is not public? Do you pay to use a frequency? Can you broadcast? No? Didn't think so, because the use of that frequency and power is not yours. That belongs to a company which bought the rights to it. You can merely purchase a device which can pick up and interpret the radiation and display a signal. Tax payer money doesn't support FOX or ABC to broadcast over the air. The companies bought that ability, it's theirs. Case closed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Can you guarantee every parent in the United States that their children will not tune into "adult" material if it is permitted to be broadcast on the public airwaves? NO; and neither can the FCC, therefore it is regulated.
    I can...it's called unplug the TV. Only let it operate when you are around. Be a damned responsible parent instead of trying to social engineer things so you don't have to watch over your kids. "Oh please...won't someone PLEASE think of the CHILDREN"! What piss poor appeal to emotion. It's the oldest false argument on the books. You can't just see the E&M radiation which composes TV and radio signals. You need a device to receive them. Control that device. Jesus Christ, is that too much? You kids can't watch TV if there is no TV.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    How difficult a concept is this for people like you?
    I don't know. How difficult is the concept of responsibility to you? Why do you have to have the government solve your problem for you? Baffles me.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: The U.S. Supreme Court gives OK to government crackdown on the airwaves.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So you're ok with government censorship, just as long as it is censorship YOU agree with it?


    Of course I am and so is everyone else here.
    We ALL agree with varying degrees of "censorship".
    In fact many of you go out of your way to apply additional layers to yourselves and others(we like to call it PC)

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    Re: The U.S. Supreme Court gives OK to government crackdown on the airwaves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    We ALL agree with varying degrees of "censorship".
    In fact many of you go out of your way to apply additional layers to yourselves and others(we like to call it PC)
    Which varying degree do I agree with?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: The U.S. Supreme Court gives OK to government crackdown on the airwaves.

    I have no idea. I know though that at some point you'd say "ok that is not right"
    ..problem is you'll never admit what that point is here.

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    Re: The U.S. Supreme Court gives OK to government crackdown on the airwaves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    As I said, the only job of the FCC should be to enforce property rights, not censor. It's not public airwaves. Just because you can get a piece of metal of proper length and pick up electro-magnetic radiation and have a device which can interpret that radiation and compose a series of fast moving pictures and sounds out of it does not make it public. You do not pay for the use of that frequency. You can not just set up a radio station or tv station and broadcast at your whim. The use of that specific E&M spectrum is cut off to you, you may only receive a signal, you may not broadcast on in that frequency bandwidth yourself. Someone else, a private person, has paid for the rights to use that frequency and power. Thus it belongs to them, it's private.

    It's the same damned thing with the smoking ban. People call the private business public so they can make excuses as to why government has a proper role sticking its nose in where it don't belong. Conservative...liberal...neither respect property. You define it which ever way you want to get what you want. No smoking, "decency" on TV...whatever BS you can make up. Follow the money, who pays is the owner. If it's public, the public pays for it and the public can use it. If it's private, a private individual pays for it and can deny use of it at their leisure. Both are true for private business and TV/Radio. You can't go to a radio station and demand to have a program, they choose to let you speak and broadcast those words. Business owners can kick you out, they don't have to let you use the kitchen or make your own drink.

    No matter how you cut it, if you wish to acknowledge reality, you see that the "public" airwaves happen to be private. Just because you have a device that can pick up certain signals doesn't mean that what you have found is public. You only wish to define it as such so that you can excuse censorship against the People.
    Carry on Ikari, I know, you are the center of the universe and all that is revolves around you.

    By the way, just for my edification, how old are you? I am willing to bet barely 25 if that.

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    Re: The U.S. Supreme Court gives OK to government crackdown on the airwaves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    So you believe that someone who is 8 or even 10 years old can make the determination of what they are watching and it's content?
    No, but their parents can.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector
    How hard is it for you to comprehend that the PUBLIC airwaves are intended to be kept to a neutral content without vulgar language, sex or porn because they are PUBLIC and for those who want vulgar content, they can get that on cable or satellite channels.
    Well actually Nickelodeon and Comedy Central are cable channels. And they're still regulated by the FCC, just not as tightly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector
    Can you guarantee every parent in the United States that their children will not tune into "adult" material if it is permitted to be broadcast on the public airwaves?
    Why should I (or the government) have to make you any such guarantee? Don't let your kids watch it if you're that worried about it. The government is NOT your kids' babysitter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector
    How difficult a concept is this for people like you?
    I find it ironic that the people shrieking the loudest about needing to regulate the content on public airwaves are often the same people who criticize the so-called Fairness Doctrine.
    Last edited by Kandahar; 04-29-09 at 06:32 PM.
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