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    Re: Low level flight panics NY

    Now we're hearing that the FAA told the locals NOT to notify the public.


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    Re: Low level flight panics NY

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    I heard on the news last night that the local authorities were notified beforehand but someone didn't spread the word. Mayor Bloomberg didn't even get advance notice.

    It's someone in the NYC government who was at fault, not the Feds.

    Reminds me of Katrina.

    It wasn't FEMA who was responsible for the initial response. Someone on the local front dropped the ball.



    They were notified, but told that it was classified information. The feds tied the locals hand.
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    Re: Low level flight panics NY

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Now we're hearing that the FAA told the locals NOT to notify the public.



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    Re: Low level flight panics NY

    Crying over this incident is like crying over spilled milk.

    But any how from my understanding this was a photo op and the image was made over the Hudson. Now why the heck would they decide to do this in morning early afternoon when the light would be better in the early evening to sunset?

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    Re: Low level flight panics NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    They were notified, but told that it was classified information. The feds tied the locals hand.
    Although someone in the Mayor's office dropped the ball by not notifying him.

    The mayor said the Police Department and someone in his administration – he did not say who – received an e-mail from the Federal Aviation Administration late on Thursday, informing them that there would be “a fly-by for a photo-op, as they described it.”

    However, Mr. Bloomberg said he was not apprised of the flyover until his BlackBerry started buzzing this morning with messages from people asking if he knew what was going on. He characterized it as a breakdown in communication that “will never happen again.”

    “First thing is, I’m annoyed – furious is a better word – that I wasn’t told,” he said at a City Hall news conference held to discuss the swine flu cluster in Queens.

    In unusually harsh language, the mayor criticized the Defense Department for conducting the exercise and the Federal Aviation Administration for being secretive about it.

    Jim Peters, an F.A.A. spokesman, said “the photo op was approved and coordinated with everyone.” Notification was made in advance to the mayor’s office, “including its 911 and 311 operation centers,” the New York City Police Department, the New Jersey State Police, the United States Park Police and other agencies, he said.

    The Police Department confirmed that it had been notified about the event but said it had been barred from alerting the public. “The flight of a VC-25 aircraft and F-16 fighters this morning was authorized by the F.A.A. for the vicinity of the Statue of Liberty with directives to local authorities not to disclose information about it but to direct any inquiries to the F.A.A. Air Traffic Security Coordinator,” the Police Department said in a statement.

    The mayor criticized the secrecy around the flyover. The e-mail notification “did have the normal language of saying this is sensitive information, should be distributed on a need-to-know basis, that they did not plan to have any publicity about it, which I think is ridiculous and just poor judgment,” Mr. Bloomberg said.
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    Re: Low level flight panics NY

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Crying over this incident is like crying over spilled milk.
    As one who lived through that day in september 2001, lost relatives and friends. I find your dismissive attitude, rather insulting and ignorant.


    Thank you for comparing my loss to "spilled milk".




    But any how from my understanding this was a photo op and the image was made over the Hudson. Now why the heck would they decide to do this in morning early afternoon when the light would be better in the early evening to sunset?

    Yeah because that is the crux of the issue here.
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    Re: Low level flight panics NY

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Although someone in the Mayor's office dropped the ball for not notifying him.



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    The biggest **** up was bloomberg's admin. looks like his office had notice and he flubbed it.


    Had he gotten his BB working he could have fought the federalis on the secrecy issue.
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    Re: Low level flight panics NY

    Start the Obama impeachment hearings!! :
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    Re: Low level flight panics NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    As one who lived through that day in september 2001, lost relatives and friends.
    You are not the only one.

    I'll over look your assumptions this time.

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    Re: Low level flight panics NY

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    As one who lived through that day in september 2001, lost relatives and friends. I find your dismissive attitude, rather insulting and ignorant.


    Thank you for comparing my loss to "spilled milk".
    winston, I have to say I agree with the Reverend. That was a horrific day. I can imagine how many memories this thing brought out to those who were there that day.

    Honestly, Reverend, I think he wanted to make a joke about the timing of the picture taking. But we shall see. winston is a good guy. I think he didn't mean any harm, but I feel your pain.

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