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    Re: Judge: It's 'high time' to legalize pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    You were saying?
    So you can't separate product from packaging like a normal human ?

    Do you you eat the styrofoam carton and the eggs doofus ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    When I said marijuana should be sold by an "authorized" source, I was drawing a parallel to liquor licences. Do you disagree with the requirements for businesses to have a licence before they can sell alcohol?
    Your "authorization" doesn't mean anything to me.

    I call I'm the official "Authorizor" next round.

    Yes I do disagree with the very existance of extortionist state liquor boards.

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    Re: Judge: It's 'high time' to legalize pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Somewhere in the neighborhood of $100 million annually in the state of California.
    Source for this ? Does that sound like much ?

    I read your article, and that is a SALES tax.

    Not a sin tax, and thus not a revenue generator.

    Lets say one in six Californians smoke grass.

    36 million / 6 = 6 million people.

    100 million annual, divided by 6 million = 16.60 dollars a year from a pot smoker. Yeah, you will make or break a state with California's budget on that loose change . . .

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    Re: Judge: It's 'high time' to legalize pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    So you can't separate product from packaging like a normal human ?

    Do you you eat the styrofoam carton and the eggs doofus ?
    Are you serious? Would you honestly eat a hamburger that's been floating in gasoline for days or weeks, wrapped in celophane by some loser who doesn't even have a GED?? Give me a break.

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    Re: Judge: It's 'high time' to legalize pot

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Awesome. I have this one bookmarked for the next time someone says RvW is unconstitutional.
    I was gonna say. Here's a conservative now appealing not to a strict and originalist interpretation of the constitution but a quite loose one.

    Basically the real question is; Does the constitution grant the powers directly to ban make these substances illegal? If it doesn't then this is no better than judicial activism to make GM legal.
    "It is written in the eternal constitution that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." - Edmund Burke

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    Re: Judge: It's 'high time' to legalize pot

    If one strictly interprets the Constitution no such authority exists. Citing the commerce clause is wrong on two counts.

    1. The authority to regulate commerce does not entail the authority to wholly prohibit commerce. Such a reading could conceivably rationalize the prohibition of anything deemed commercial.

    2. It violates the spirit of our Constitution and the letter of the Ninth Amendment. Ingesting drugs is a personal choice which - in and of itself - affects nobody but myself; therefore it should concern nobody but myself.

    Nobody has the moral authority to impose their value system on others.

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    Re: Judge: It's 'high time' to legalize pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    If one strictly interprets the Constitution no such authority exists. Citing the commerce clause is wrong on two counts.

    1. The authority to regulate commerce does not entail the authority to wholly prohibit commerce. Such a reading could conceivably rationalize the prohibition of anything deemed commercial.

    2. It violates the spirit of our Constitution and the letter of the Ninth Amendment. Ingesting drugs is a personal choice which - in and of itself - affects nobody but myself; therefore it should concern nobody but myself.

    Nobody has the moral authority to impose their value system on others.
    ....Except Chuck Norris
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    Re: Judge: It's 'high time' to legalize pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    Source for this ? Does that sound like much ?

    I read your article, and that is a SALES tax.

    Not a sin tax, and thus not a revenue generator.
    What are you talking about? Please define "revenue." Specifically, tax revenue.

    Lets say one in six Californians smoke grass.

    36 million / 6 = 6 million people.

    100 million annual, divided by 6 million = 16.60 dollars a year from a pot smoker. Yeah, you will make or break a state with California's budget on that loose change . . .
    Wow.... Just wow
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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