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    Re: Judge: It's 'high time' to legalize pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    ahh so it holds the same amount of weight as you or i then.
    Unless, of course, he is the one handing down the sentance.

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    Re: Judge: It's 'high time' to legalize pot

    he sees first hand how stupid the law is
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Judge: It's 'high time' to legalize pot

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    That part I can agree with. Because just like the fat asses who sue McDonalds, the idiots who sue because they tripped over their own shoe laces,the idiots who sued because they spilled coffee on themselves, and the other morons who sue for doing stupid **** we will have pot heads suing because pot made them lazy or caused them to get in a car accident or caused some sort of brain damage or some other possible things associated with long term pot use.
    Yeah, if you don't do something, we'll repeat the mess we have with tobacco. Where it's being sued, but the government can't let it die because it gets too much money via taxation from it. So everything has to be upfront. These are the dangers, people should be discouraged from it, they should be made full aware that it's a personal choice and they are responsible for the consequences of it.
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    Re: Judge: It's 'high time' to legalize pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah, if you don't do something, we'll repeat the mess we have with tobacco. Where it's being sued, but the government can't let it die because it gets too much money via taxation from it. So everything has to be upfront. These are the dangers, people should be discouraged from it, they should be made full aware that it's a personal choice and they are responsible for the consequences of it.
    I think you're right...the whole tobacco lawsuit issue wouldn't even be an issue if the tobacco companies had been forthcoming about the dangers and effects of tobacco use. Instead, they did the exact opposite.

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    Re: Judge: It's 'high time' to legalize pot

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    i think there's a pretty good argument that the controlled substances act is unconstitutional
    What's the argument?

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    Re: Judge: It's 'high time' to legalize pot

    the CSA allows the FDA and DEA, in a closed loop, determine the drug "schedule" (i.e. how "illegal" it is). it's done completely without any interaction with Congress. Congress, or any other elected body, does not decide drug legality in this country- an obscure body of appointed bureaucrats (many of whom were appointed decades ago) do.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Judge: It's 'high time' to legalize pot

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    the CSA allows the FDA and DEA, in a closed loop, determine the drug "schedule" (i.e. how "illegal" it is). it's done completely without any interaction with Congress.
    Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the act give those agencies the power t do that? If Congress gave them the power, then how can you argue there was no interaction w/ congress?

    Are you arguing that Congress doesnt have the power to give this power to a federal agency? If so, what do you base that on?

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    Re: Judge: It's 'high time' to legalize pot

    Well what part of the constitution would authorize such an agency?
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Judge: It's 'high time' to legalize pot

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    the CSA allows the FDA and DEA, in a closed loop, determine the drug "schedule" (i.e. how "illegal" it is). it's done completely without any interaction with Congress. Congress, or any other elected body, does not decide drug legality in this country- an obscure body of appointed bureaucrats (many of whom were appointed decades ago) do.
    There's also the Analog Act, which allows the DEA to determine that if drug A is "substantially similar" to illegal drug B, then drug A is de facto illegal. If you're wondering what "substantially similar" even means, then you understand why this gives the DEA a little more power than seems appropriate.

    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Analog_Act[/ame]


    It's really no different than saying that because what you're doing is substantially similar in my mind to a an illegal act that I know of, you can be arrested for it, even if the two acts are different. If the Analog Act was applied to the rest of the legal system, nobody would be outside of jail anymore.

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    Re: Judge: It's 'high time' to legalize pot

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    There's also the Analog Act, which allows the DEA to determine that if drug A is "substantially similar" to illegal drug B, then drug A is de facto illegal. If you're wondering what "substantially similar" even means, then you understand why this gives the DEA a little more power than seems appropriate.

    Federal Analog Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    It's really no different than saying that because what you're doing is substantially similar in my mind to a an illegal act that I know of, you can be arrested for it, even if the two acts are different. If the Analog Act was applied to the rest of the legal system, nobody would be outside of jail anymore.
    If a tenth of the powers given to the DEA were used broadly, nobody would be outside jail anymore.

    Of course, who's the biggest lobbyist for all these draconian laws? The prison-industrial complex. Wonder why?
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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