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    Re: Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why?

    I'm not involved up to this point, but thought I would add fuel to the fire and show how close this is:

    I just picked my son up from school and there were TV vans everywhere. My son's elementary school has 1 confirmed A strain and 2 potential flu cases here in Dallas area. They decided to shut the school down for the rest of the week. This week was TAKS test (no child left behind testing) which in short terms would take someone very high up to shut the place down - it is state law to take the test this week.

    Either this is media hype or we have a serious threat of a real pandemic.
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    Re: Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why?

    3 rd world countries have corrupt Health systems?
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    Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why? | World | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle



    The math in the Mexico cases is disturbing. If the mortality rate holds, this is one of the most lethal influenza strains ever. If the mortality rate is in actuality closer to the Spanish Influenza rate of 2.5%, then there are some 1800 unreported (and thus wholly uncontained) cases.

    It's either more lethal and less virulent, or more virulent and less lethal. Somehow, neither combination seems especially comforting.

    However, one thing that has been unreported/unnoticed thus far is that Mexican authorities are not pretending there is no crisis as the Chinese government did during the SARS outbreak some years back. Especially given the speculations of some (including myself) that Mexico could be on the verge of becoming a failed state, it is worth noting that they appear to be taking the influenza outbreak seriously.

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    Re: Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Uhh we see that all the time. This came from swine. Other strains of flu come from birds. Bubonic plague came from rats. HIV came from monkeys. Where do you think most human diseases COME from? Other animals.
    Not necessarily. The strains we see are specific to one type of animals with a few sequences of DNA allowing cross species transfer. How the media reports this one is that it's got sizable amounts of both human based and avian in a majority pig virus. That's new. Remember that Bubonic plague is not a singular agent but a chorus of bacteria and viruses all working together. As for HIV, it's not that much of a stretch for a disease that targets apes to transfer to humans who are in fact apes.
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    Re: Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Not necessarily. The strains we see are specific to one type of animals with a few sequences of DNA allowing cross species transfer. How the media reports this one is that it's got sizable amounts of both human based and avian in a majority pig virus. That's new. Remember that Bubonic plague is not a singular agent but a chorus of bacteria and viruses all working together. As for HIV, it's not that much of a stretch for a disease that targets apes to transfer to humans who are in fact apes.
    Speak for yourself, ape.

    You see what the Russians are doing. They're checking all American planes for swine flu, and banning imports of meat from Mexico and some US states.
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    Re: Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why?

    Seems somewhat serious so far.Time will tell.
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    Re: Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why?

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    I'm not involved up to this point, but thought I would add fuel to the fire and show how close this is:

    I just picked my son up from school and there were TV vans everywhere. My son's elementary school has 1 confirmed A strain and 2 potential flu cases here in Dallas area. They decided to shut the school down for the rest of the week. This week was TAKS test (no child left behind testing) which in short terms would take someone very high up to shut the place down - it is state law to take the test this week.

    Either this is media hype or we have a serious threat of a real pandemic.
    jeez! Scary. My husband has been traveling on planes about every 2 weeks. Makes me very nervous to hear all this. Seems like the planes would be the perfect incubators for this crapola.

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    Re: Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why?

    - cbs11tv.com

    Dunno if the above link will work, but for a slit second around 1:14 you see me and my son walking the sidewalk. They sped it up, I do not walk that fast.
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    Re: Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why?

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    - cbs11tv.com

    Dunno if the above link will work, but for a slit second around 1:14 you see me and my son walking the sidewalk. They sped it up, I do not walk that fast.
    omg your on the news!

    Yeah they probably made you look more frantic than you actually were.
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    Re: Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why?

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    This best selling book might see a rise in sales. This is author John Barry of New Orleans who also wrote Rising Tide. Somehow my family knows him.

    The book is awesome.


    John Barry was just on Glen Beck. 50 million people or more worldwide died in 1918 within 6 months. 16 million had died in WWI. One third of the US was sick.

    John researched this book for years. I don't think a lot of people know about this great influenza.

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    Re: Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why?

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    John Barry was just on Glen Beck. 50 million people or more worldwide died in 1918 within 6 months. 16 million had died in WWI. One third of the US was sick.

    John researched this book for years. I don't think a lot of people know about this great influenza.
    A few things different between then and now.

    First off then, we had a world war that was being fought in trenches. The flu hit the troops very hard due to the conditions and many historians and experts actually say that the Spanish flu had more to do with the German surrender than anything else. These troops were sent to the rear when sick, which spread the flu even more.

    Secondly our understanding of the flu was no where near as good as it is today. Back then we did not know how it was spread for one.

    Thirdly back then we did not have any medicine to combat flu. We do today.

    And finally, sanitation back then was no where near as good as it is today. Most houses did not have indoor plumbing and such back then.

    There are more differences of course, but those are the key differences that will probably mean that this new swine flu will be no where near as bad as the Spanish flu of 1918.
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