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    Re: Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    We really don't see viruses or bacteria that incorporate DNA specific to harming different species all molded into one new super bug.
    Uhh we see that all the time. This came from swine. Other strains of flu come from birds. Bubonic plague came from rats. HIV came from monkeys. Where do you think most human diseases COME from? Other animals.
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    Re: Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Uhh we see that all the time. This came from swine. Other strains of flu come from birds. Bubonic plague came from rats. HIV came from monkeys. Where do you think most human diseases COME from? Other animals.
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    Actually, we can lay the bubonic plague at the feet of the fleas, and the rats were merely their public transportation, but otherwise yeah, your argument still stands.

    Just felt like nitpicking. Carry on.

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    Re: Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why? | World | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle



    The math in the Mexico cases is disturbing. If the mortality rate holds, this is one of the most lethal influenza strains ever. If the mortality rate is in actuality closer to the Spanish Influenza rate of 2.5%, then there are some 1800 unreported (and thus wholly uncontained) cases.

    It's either more lethal and less virulent, or more virulent and less lethal. Somehow, neither combination seems especially comforting.

    However, one thing that has been unreported/unnoticed thus far is that Mexican authorities are not pretending there is no crisis as the Chinese government did during the SARS outbreak some years back. Especially given the speculations of some (including myself) that Mexico could be on the verge of becoming a failed state, it is worth noting that they appear to be taking the influenza outbreak seriously.
    Very simple....

    Mexico City is one of the biggest cities on the planet and one of the most polluted. The amount respiratory problems among the population is considerably higher in Mexico City than elsewhere, and since flue especially hits people with respiratory problems hard, and that the present flue vaccine given to said people is ineffective.. then you have the perfect cocktail for many deaths.

    But keep up with you conspiracy theories and rampant latino hate, it is entertaining after all.
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    Re: Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Very simple....

    Mexico City is one of the biggest cities on the planet and one of the most polluted. The amount respiratory problems among the population is considerably higher in Mexico City than elsewhere, and since flue especially hits people with respiratory problems hard, and that the present flue vaccine given to said people is ineffective.. then you have the perfect cocktail for many deaths.

    But keep up with you conspiracy theories and rampant latino hate, it is entertaining after all.
    This is true; furthermore, the population density there is 6 thousand people per square kilometer. The population is around 30 million (depending on who gets counted, how the census is conducted). Also, contact with animals is more common than in other cities of its size, on account of culture and other factors.


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    Re: Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    This is true; furthermore, the population density there is 6 thousand people per square kilometer. The population is around 30 million (depending on who gets counted, how the census is conducted). Also, contact with animals is more common than in other cities of its size, on account of culture and other factors.


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    Exactly. Same with SARS. Chances of similar happening in Europe or US are slim due to the various factors not being present even in the high population areas. Saying that, it can spread just as well here and in US as it can everywhere else.
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    Re: Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    But keep up with you conspiracy theories and rampant latino hate, it is entertaining after all.
    Eh?

    Rampant Latino hate? Where in the hell did you get that? Or is this another example of the usual liberal tripe of ignoring reality to the detriment of all concerned?

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    Re: Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why?

    Swine flu is worse is Mexico because that's where it started. It's not severe elsewhere because the only cases are from people who came out of Mexico.

    No brainer.

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    Re: Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Eh?

    Rampant Latino hate? Where in the hell did you get that? Or is this another example of the usual liberal tripe of ignoring reality to the detriment of all concerned?
    No it comes from the way you formulated your original comment. The first part of your comment was okay, but then you had to add this..

    Especially given the speculations of some (including myself) that Mexico could be on the verge of becoming a failed state, it is worth noting that they appear to be taking the influenza outbreak seriously.
    What on earth does the drug war have to do with this? And who is it that is claiming that Mexico is becoming a failed state? Is it the US government or is it right wing blogs and politicians trying to capitalize on the anti-Latino wave gripping certain parts of the US right wing? Why even mention it? What does a drug war have to do with the the fact that swine flu is "worse" in Mexico? Why did you mention this drug war (yes not directly) before other much more valid factors, like population density, pollution, social traditions and so on?

    So yes, you in your own words, either directly or inadvertently contributed to my claim of anti-latino comments on your side.
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    Re: Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Very simple....

    Mexico City is one of the biggest cities on the planet and one of the most polluted. The amount respiratory problems among the population is considerably higher in Mexico City than elsewhere, and since flue especially hits people with respiratory problems hard, and that the present flue vaccine given to said people is ineffective.. then you have the perfect cocktail for many deaths.

    But keep up with you conspiracy theories and rampant latino hate, it is entertaining after all.
    I don't see any conspiracy theories or rampant latino hate here. Perhaps you'd like to refrain from lying your ass off on this board, for a change?
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    Re: Swine flu is worse in Mexico, but why?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I don't see any conspiracy theories or rampant latino hate here. Perhaps you'd like to refrain from lying your ass off on this board, for a change?
    I think that was a reference to the virus engineering part, though I don't see how it really went into the conspiracy section. At most, it skimmed by it.
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