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    Re: SNAP ANALYSIS-New swine flu likely widespread, experts say

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It sounds crappy to say it but I don't really flinch at it because I will be exposed to it at some point.

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    Most of those things in the end won't be practical to my life and I will most likely be exposed to it.


    It is possible to hold up and hope it passes but again its not practical.


    All I know is that its probably similar to the regular flu and that If I can beat that I'll do what I normally do to beat this one.



    Its not another ho-hum but then again it is.

    The regular flu is pandemic every year. It kills people as well.

    This one will kill more people, once you get it all you can do is treat yourself in the best manner possible.

    Your call. At this point we don't know what the fatality rate will be if it goes pandemic, we can only guess. Every individual has to balance the risk to themselves and their family vs "everyday regular life demands" and decide what is important. The 1918-19 pandemic only had about a 2.5% fatality rate and was very disruptive to socioeconomics.
    If you don't think it is worth preparing or taking any precautions, then I wish you luck and hope you're right.

    My point would be that even if this particular strain of H1N1 does not turn out to be a pandemic, or not a serious one, there is still H5N1 out there, and other possibilities, and the CDC has been saying for years its not if, but when, and what specific virus and characteristics, will be the next pandemic. We're already overdue, statistically.

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    Re: SNAP ANALYSIS-New swine flu likely widespread, experts say

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    As far as I have read most of those herb things are bunk.
    My own direct experience is that they are not.

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    Re: SNAP ANALYSIS-New swine flu likely widespread, experts say

    Swine flu: United States declares public health emergency

    The United States declared a public health emergency on Sunday amid an outbreak of 20 confirmed cases of swine flu.

    By Alex Spillius in Washington
    Last Updated: 8:19PM BST 26 Apr 2009

    The emergency declaration was "standard operating procedure," said Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano as officials said there had been 20 confirmed cases of swine flu in five US states: eight in New York, seven California, two each in Kansas and Texas, and one in Ohio.

    Richard Besser of the Centre for Disease Control Prevention said "we will see more cases but we are responding aggressively".

    In a hastily called briefing at the White House, officials said they were confident that reserves of antiviral drugs were adequate and reminded the public that the virus could not be contracted from eating pork.
    Swine flu: United States declares public health emergency - Telegraph

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    Re: SNAP ANALYSIS-New swine flu likely widespread, experts say

    I'm not sure if someone said this before, but there's a reason the young and to middle-aged die in higher numbers in outbreaks such as these. Older people have had that many more years to combat infectious diseases, and they have more antibodies than young people. In fact, overall, old people suffer from infectious diseases less frequently than young. So, you geezers can rest a little easier.


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    Re: SNAP ANALYSIS-New swine flu likely widespread, experts say

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Your call. At this point we don't know what the fatality rate will be if it goes pandemic, we can only guess. Every individual has to balance the risk to themselves and their family vs "everyday regular life demands" and decide what is important. The 1918-19 pandemic only had about a 2.5% fatality rate and was very disruptive to socioeconomics.
    If you don't think it is worth preparing or taking any precautions, then I wish you luck and hope you're right.

    My point would be that even if this particular strain of H1N1 does not turn out to be a pandemic, or not a serious one, there is still H5N1 out there, and other possibilities, and the CDC has been saying for years its not if, but when, and what specific virus and characteristics, will be the next pandemic. We're already overdue, statistically.

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    I understand what your saying.

    Like its been said before though, its all speculation.
    I've come to the conclusion that for me to survive I will have to function around people who could have the virus and that my only real defense will be my immune system and my ability to treat myself while sick.
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    Re: SNAP ANALYSIS-New swine flu likely widespread, experts say

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    My own direct experience is that they are not.
    I know that there may be some benefits with some herbs but things like colloidal silver are completely useless when taken internally.

    Colloidal silver while only make you sick.
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    Re: SNAP ANALYSIS-New swine flu likely widespread, experts say

    Swine flu cases now being reported in Scotland, Spain, Israel, France, UK, Mexico, Colombia, Canada, New Zealand, and the United States.

    Here is a map showing cases of swine flu in each state and country.

    H1N1 Swine Flu - Google Maps
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    Re: SNAP ANALYSIS-New swine flu likely widespread, experts say

    Has anyone read The Plague?

    Oh...no reason. Just wondering.


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    Re: SNAP ANALYSIS-New swine flu likely widespread, experts say

    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    Has anyone read The Plague?

    Oh...no reason. Just wondering.


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    Is swine flu like the rage virus?

    We will know whats happening in about 28 days.
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    Mexico flu: Your experiences
    Readers in Mexico have been emailing the BBC describing the sense of fear gripping the country as a result of a flu virus outbreak, which has so far claimed more than 80 lives.

    I work as a resident doctor in one of the biggest hospitals in Mexico City and sadly, the situation is far from "under control". As a doctor, I realise that the media does not report the truth. Authorities distributed vaccines among all the medical personnel with no results, because two of my partners who worked in this hospital (interns) were killed by this new virus in less than six days even though they were vaccinated as all of us were. The official number of deaths is 20, nevertheless, the true number of victims are more than 200. I understand that we must avoid to panic, but telling the truth it might be better now to prevent and avoid more deaths.
    Yeny Gregorio Dávila, Mexico City


    I'm a specialist doctor in respiratory diseases and intensive care at the Mexican National Institute of Health. There is a severe emergency over the swine flu here. More and more patients are being admitted to the intensive care unit. Despite the heroic efforts of all staff (doctors, nurses, specialists, etc) patients continue to inevitably die. The truth is that anti-viral treatments and vaccines are not expected to have any effect, even at high doses. It is a great fear among the staff. The infection risk is very high among the doctors and health staff.

    There is a sense of chaos in the other hospitals and we do not know what to do. Staff are starting to leave and many are opting to retire or apply for holidays. The truth is that mortality is even higher than what is being reported by the authorities, at least in the hospital where I work it. It is killing three to four patients daily, and it has been going on for more than three weeks. It is a shame and there is great fear here. Increasingly younger patients aged 20 to 30 years are dying before our helpless eyes and there is great sadness among health professionals here.
    Antonio Chavez, Mexico City

    I am a doctor and I work in the State of Mexico. I don't work in the shock team; I am in the echocardiography team, but I do get some news from my colleagues in the hospital. There have been some cases of young people dying from respiratory infections, but this happened before the alert and they were not reported because the necessary tests weren't done. We doctors knew this was happening a week before the alert was issued and were told to get vaccinated. I went to buy some anti-virals for my husband, who is also a doctor, because he had contact with a young patient who presented influenza symptoms and died. I don't think pharmacies stock enough anti-virals.

    I understand the government doesn't want to generate panic, but my personal opinion is that they issued the alert too late. Still now, the population is not getting the information they need. We have been out in the street and some people are not wearing face masks and are not taking any preventive measures.
    Guadalupe, Mexico City


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