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    Re: UN torture envoy: US must prosecute Bush lawyers

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Compliance with UN resolutions is not "acquiescing to the demands of a foreign body".
    That's right, hang the bastards!
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    Re: UN torture envoy: US must prosecute Bush lawyers

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    So, even if we assume laws were broken here . . .

    A lawyer who advises a criminal may be prosecuted for it?

    Do you people have any idea what kind of backwards, slack-jawed, anti-intellectual, illiberal idiocy you're spewing? Seriously?

    I guess that means the right to counsel is out the window. And you people love to jabber about "shredding the Constitution."
    As long as those Bush bastards pay, who cares?

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    Re: UN torture envoy: US must prosecute Bush lawyers

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Compliance with UN resolutions is not "acquiescing to the demands of a foreign body".

    Ethereal never said anything about U.N resolutions, which are different than acquiescing to laws implemented by a foreign body and expected to be adhered to in the United States. Two completely different things. More along the lines of what Ethereal and myself are talking about is the U.N attempting to put laws into place that effect everyday American life. Not ones that outline the previous No-Fly Zones in Iraq, or North Korea's nuclear program like the 'resolutions' you speak of.

    For example, the U.N passes a law stating due to increased concerns about global warming, it is now illegal to pass gas. This law is put into place by the United Nations but all nations must adhere to it. That is the sovereignty transition that we speak of. That is of great concern given the current administrations focus on achieving a greater degree of transnationalism.
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    Re: UN torture envoy: US must prosecute Bush lawyers

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    You wouldn't recognize a "credible" link if it bit you in the butt.
    .... .... yet ironic.

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    Re: UN torture envoy: US must prosecute Bush lawyers

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Given that some of you may not have seen any “credible” evidence supporting Bush authorizing torture, the fact that we “do” torture and its affects on innocent people… here is some of that credible information for you. God knows you wouldn’t go looking for it yourselves.
    This is not "fact"; it is rabid hyper partisan hyperbole, conjecture and speculation. Fascinating how you continue to show a propensity for not seeing the difference between this and a fact.


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    Re: UN torture envoy: US must prosecute Bush lawyers

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    The US not only conceived of the UN, but finances it and hosts it. Regardless of the current leadership or disorganization, we are committed to our obligation as a UN member, and cannot choose when to ignore it.
    It is an obvious truth that not only the Bush lawyers, but the Bush administration must be held to account for their actions in a court of law. History demands it.
    I see that reality and facts continue to elude your uniformed hyperbolic rhetoric.

    The UN is an international organization established immediately after World War II. It replaced the League of Nations. In 1945, when the UN was founded, there were 51 members; 191 nations are now members of the organization.

    What was the League of Nations?

    A former international organization, established by the peace treaties that ended World War I. Like its successor, the United Nations, its purpose was the promotion of international peace and security.

    The original membership of the League included the victorious Allies of World War I (with the exception of the United States, whose Senate refused to ratify the Treaty of Versailles) and most of the neutral nations. Among later admissions to membership were Bulgaria (1920), Austria (1920), Hungary (1922), Germany (1926), Mexico (1931), Turkey (1932), and the USSR (1934). Through the efforts of Sir Eric Drummond, the first secretary-general of the League, a truly international secretariat was created. Geneva, Switzerland, was chosen as the League headquarters.


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    Re: UN torture envoy: US must prosecute Bush lawyers

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    .... .... yet ironic.
    Does ADK's butt-biting count as torture?

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    Re: UN torture envoy: US must prosecute Bush lawyers

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    This is not "fact"; it is rabid hyper partisan hyperbole, conjecture and speculation. Fascinating how you continue to show a propensity for not seeing the difference between this and a fact.
    No matter how often you yell this it does not change reality.

    We did torture and we did torture innocent people.


    Dat's a fact, Jack!
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    Re: UN torture envoy: US must prosecute Bush lawyers

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    We did torture and we did torture innocent people
    Since when are terrorists "innocent people"?

    Oh, that's right, they aren't. And neither is your "fact" factual.

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    Re: UN torture envoy: US must prosecute Bush lawyers

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    No matter how often you yell this it does not change reality.

    We did torture and we did torture innocent people.


    Dat's a fact, Jack!
    Yet when asked for credible facts to support such assertions, none can be found.

    The reality here is that the facts are only contained in your tortured mind based on an irrational hatred for George Bush that just doesn't wash with anyone interested in an honest coherent debate.

    Please provide some credible links to support such absurd efforts to lie about what actually occurred for purely partisan political purposes.


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