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    Re: UN torture envoy: US must prosecute Bush lawyers

    Given that some of you may not have seen any “credible” evidence supporting Bush authorizing torture, the fact that we “do” torture and its affects on innocent people… here is some of that credible information for you. God knows you wouldn’t go looking for it yourselves.

    These are the real people who have been illegally imprisoned, tortured and held for years by our government in the name of “The War On Terror”. There are many more video interviews with ex-prisoners, pdf documents of court documents and other facts, as well as photos of many of these so-called “terrorists.

    Watch the video and read the articles. Then ask yourself:
    *Did Bush have a right to imprison these people in the first place?
    *Was Bush’s interrogation techniques legal?
    *Did Bush imprison real terrorists?
    *Did Bush’s actions help or damage our efforts against terrorism?
    *Did Bush’s actions help or damage our reputation in the world?
    *Did Bush’s actions help or damage our relationship with Muslims in the world?
    *Are you glad Bush did what he did, and the way he did it, or do you think he could have done things … more intelligently?

    If you don’t, you really have no right to comment on them. And from here on you’ll know that you intentionally ignored “credible” information on this issue.

    The McClatchy Project:
    A video about this project: Beyond the Law
    Early in 2007, as the Bush administration indicated that it intended to release most of the detainees at the prison at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base in Cuba, McClatchy set out to track down as many of the freed prisoners as possible to help determine who they were, what had happened to them in the prisons the Bush administration set up in Afghanistan and Cuba and what had become of them.
    For eight months, reporters Tom Lasseter and Matthew Schofield traveled to 11 countries — from England to Pakistan — and interviewed 66 former detainees. They also interviewed political and military officials in those countries to try to establish the detainees' backgrounds and check their stories.
    Lasseter and Schofield also combed through unclassified transcripts of the men's tribunal hearings at Guantanamo, when available, and Lasseter interviewed former White House and Department of Defense officials, former guards and lawyers for prisoners who had them.
    • Day One: We got the wrong guys
    • Day Two: 'I guess you can call it torture'
    • Day Three: A school for Jihad
    • Day Four: 'Due process is legal mumbo-jumbo'
    • Day Five: 'You are the king of this prison'
    Enjoy,

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    Re: UN torture envoy: US must prosecute Bush lawyers

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    the fact that we “do” torture and its affects on innocent people…
    You really do have a problem distinguishing between "allegation" and "fact," don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You really do have a problem distinguishing between "allegation" and "fact," don't you?
    I don't. But, I can see you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    I don't. But, I can see you do.
    Ah, the time-honored "I know you are, but what am I?" gambit. You have the admiration of playground disputants the world over.

    Next: you'll triple-dog dare me.
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    Re: UN torture envoy: US must prosecute Bush lawyers

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Ah, the time-honored "I know you are, but what am I?" gambit. You have the admiration of playground disputants the world over.

    Next: you'll triple-dog dare me.
    I call it the "Pee Wee Herman Tactic".
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    Re: UN torture envoy: US must prosecute Bush lawyers

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Ah, the time-honored "I know you are, but what am I?" gambit. You have the admiration of playground disputants the world over.

    Next: you'll triple-dog dare me.
    Boy, bringing facts to this issue really annoys you, doesn't it? In fact, it annoys all you right wingers who seem to be too weak to blast Bush and his goons for abusing your trust in them and sucking the air out of the Republican party. Sad. Why do you feel the need to defend him so much in the face of overwheling evidence? It's mind boggling.
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    Re: UN torture envoy: US must prosecute Bush lawyers

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Boy, bringing facts to this issue really annoys you, doesn't it? In fact, it annoys all you right wingers who seem to be too weak to blast Bush and his goons for abusing your trust in them and sucking the air out of the Republican party. Sad. Why do you feel the need to defend him so much in the face of overwheling evidence? It's mind boggling.
    I'm not annoyed yet, so I guess we're still waiting on those facts, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'm not annoyed yet, so I guess we're still waiting on those facts, eh?
    You'ld have to be open to facts. In your case, that's impossible.
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    Re: UN torture envoy: US must prosecute Bush lawyers

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    You'ld have to be open to facts. In your case, that's impossible.
    Perhaps someday you'll provide some facts to back that up.

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    Re: UN torture envoy: US must prosecute Bush lawyers

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Boy, bringing facts to this issue really annoys you, doesn't it? In fact, it annoys all you right wingers who seem to be too weak to blast Bush and his goons for abusing your trust in them and sucking the air out of the Republican party. Sad. Why do you feel the need to defend him so much in the face of overwheling evidence? It's mind boggling.
    "Mind-boggling" describes your failure to understand that someone claiming something happened is an allegation, not a "fact." I mean, really -- any 4th-grader would know that.
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