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    U.S. Questions Pakistanís Will to Stop Taliban

    As the Taliban tightened their hold over newly won territory, Pakistani politicians and American officials on Thursday sharply questioned the governmentís willingness to deal with the insurgents and the Pakistani militaryís decision to remain on the sidelines.
    Some 400 to 500 insurgents consolidated control of their new prize, a strategic district called Buner, just 70 miles from the capital, Islamabad, setting up checkpoints and negotiating a truce similar to the one that allowed the Taliban to impose Islamic law in the neighboring Swat Valley.

    As they did, Taliban contingents were seen Thursday in at least two other districts and areas still closer to the capital, according to Pakistani government officials and residents

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/wo...ef=global-home

    This is directly the fault of the Bush administration, for not pursuing an objective in Afghanistan and instead, diverting US troops and assets into a needless war in Iraq. The destruction of the Taliban, AlQaeda and Osama binLaden was within our grasp, yet the Bush administration stopped the pursuit to begin its own misguided adventure. Bush and Cheney believed the world would revolve around their decisions, meanwhile their incompetence has created a situation in which terrorists are now in position to overthrow the government of a nuclear state.

    This is a perfect example of how evil flows into a vacuum, how the real world of foreign policy was beyond the comprehension and capability of the Bush administration, and why Republicans cannot be trusted to supervise the use of the US military.

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    Re: U.S. Questions Pakistanís Will to Stop Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/wo...ef=global-home

    This is directly the fault of the Bush administration, for not pursuing an objective in Afghanistan and instead, diverting US troops and assets into a needless war in Iraq. The destruction of the Taliban, AlQaeda and Osama binLaden was within our grasp, yet the Bush administration stopped the pursuit to begin its own misguided adventure. Bush and Cheney believed the world would revolve around their decisions, meanwhile their incompetence has created a situation in which terrorists are now in position to overthrow the government of a nuclear state.

    This is a perfect example of how evil flows into a vacuum, how the real world of foreign policy was beyond the comprehension and capability of the Bush administration, and why Republicans cannot be trusted to supervise the use of the US military.
    You don't think that the massive shift in Us Policy and attitude towards Pakistan had anything to do with this do you?
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    Re: U.S. Questions Pakistanís Will to Stop Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/wo...ef=global-home

    This is directly the fault of the Bush administration, for not pursuing an objective in Afghanistan and instead, diverting US troops and assets into a needless war in Iraq. The destruction of the Taliban, AlQaeda and Osama binLaden was within our grasp, yet the Bush administration stopped the pursuit to begin its own misguided adventure. Bush and Cheney believed the world would revolve around their decisions, meanwhile their incompetence has created a situation in which terrorists are now in position to overthrow the government of a nuclear state.

    This is a perfect example of how evil flows into a vacuum, how the real world of foreign policy was beyond the comprehension and capability of the Bush administration, and why Republicans cannot be trusted to supervise the use of the US military.




    Stopped its persuit? Care to explain that?



    And when is it Obama's fault? Please let me know when you will start holding him accountable.
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    Re: U.S. Questions Pakistanís Will to Stop Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Stopped its persuit? Care to explain that?



    And when is it Obama's fault? Please let me know when you will start holding him accountable.
    The task force designed to capture Osama binLaden and high value Taliban leaders was disbanded as the Iraq war was begun. The irresponsibility of the Bush administration is matched only by the ignorance of its defenders.

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    Re: U.S. Questions Pakistanís Will to Stop Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You don't think that the massive shift in Us Policy and attitude towards Pakistan had anything to do with this do you?

    Which shift are you referring to, and how does it affect the movement of the Taliban?

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    Re: U.S. Questions Pakistanís Will to Stop Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    The task force designed to capture Osama binLaden and high value Taliban leaders was disbanded as the Iraq war was begun. The irresponsibility of the Bush administration is matched only by the ignorance of its defenders.



    So did Obama put this "task force" back together yet?


    How long do you give him before you start blaming him as well?
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    Re: U.S. Questions Pakistanís Will to Stop Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So did Obama put this "task force" back together yet?


    How long do you give him before you start blaming him as well?
    Well he is increasing troops in Afghanistan.

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    Re: U.S. Questions Pakistanís Will to Stop Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Well he is increasing troops in Afghanistan.


    I thought bin laden was thought to be in Pakistan?
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    Re: U.S. Questions Pakistanís Will to Stop Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I thought bin laden was thought to be in Pakistan?
    He moved to Staten Island.

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    Re: U.S. Questions Pakistanís Will to Stop Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Which shift are you referring to, and how does it affect the movement of the Taliban?
    Obama's support for Pakistan is not the same as Bush had, and his policy of attacking the Taliban openly on Pakistan soil has caused a big dust up with the Pakistani population.

    I.E. Less support for the Government and attacks on their soil openly have helped to destabilize the Pakistani Government.

    It's no coincident that with the change in US Policy the Taliban in that country have become more popular and more aggressive.

    For eight years Bush treated Pakistan as a valued Ally and while the government had problems, never like it does now with the change in how we do business with them.

    Yet you refuse to take this into account.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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