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    Re: Pelosi briefed on waterboarding in '02 [UPDATED]

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    ... What fear has a terrorist of a nation that will only incarcerate him, that will feed him, clothe him, honor his religious needs, as the just due for slaying thousands of that nation's people?

    If terrorists were to meet the nations of the world on conventional battlefields, if they were to press their various causes with conventional arms, conventional tactics, and conventional forces, there would be sound argument for keeping response restrained to the conventions of war.

    Terrorists reject all convention of war. They despise all convention of war. They condemn convention of war as weakness and impurity of spirit.
    And we hear virtually no condemnation of these terrorist cretins... it's all aimed at the US!
    Amazing, ridiculous, and dangerous.

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    Re: Pelosi briefed on waterboarding in '02 [UPDATED]

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Another bit of Libs Behaving Badly was Bush's "Read My Lips" change of heart to please... Libs.

    After the tax hike was signed, the Libs stood around Bush 41 like the cat that ate the canary.

    In the next election the photo and bipartisanship was forgotten and out came the long knives about his breaking his "No new taxes" pledge.

    Clinton wins and... raises taxes.

    These people are nasty, lying, devious dolts.

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    That issue and others are what I didn't like about BOTH Bushes; the thought that they could get along with these cretins and actually work with them while they stabbed them in the back.

    Thanks for remembering and reminding.

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    Re: Pelosi briefed on waterboarding in '02 [UPDATED]

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Another bit of Libs Behaving Badly was Bush's "Read My Lips" change of heart to please... Libs.

    After the tax hike was signed, the Libs stood around Bush 41 like the cat that ate the canary.

    In the next election the photo and bipartisanship was forgotten and out came the long knives about his breaking his "No new taxes" pledge.

    Clinton wins and... raises taxes.

    These people are nasty, lying, devious dolts.

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    How is it "behaving badly" to point out that Bush went back on his promise to not raise taxes? The actual tax increases where not the issue, his going back on his word was. Two entirely seperate issues.

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    Re: Pelosi briefed on waterboarding in '02 [UPDATED]

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    And we hear virtually no condemnation of these terrorist cretins... it's all aimed at the US!
    Amazing, ridiculous, and dangerous.

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    Huh? I know of no one who thinks of terrorists as anything other than the lowest forms of life on Earth. Opinions on terrorists have no bearing on my opinions of what we should do, and since I cannot change what the terrorists do, but may be able to, in some small way, influence what my country is doing, I talk much more about this country, and what I see as the mistakes we make.

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    Re: Pelosi briefed on waterboarding in '02 [UPDATED]

    The immediate response to 9/11 from groups like MoveOn as well as the general theme of the left over the past 7 years clearly shows they do not view Terrorists(btw its "man made disasters") as "the lowest forms of life on Earth"

    They put them above the USA and its people.




    Obama made that clear as day again with this whole thing.
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    Re: Pelosi briefed on waterboarding in '02 [UPDATED]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Opinions on terrorists have no bearing on my opinions of what we should do, and since I cannot change what the terrorists do, but may be able to, in some small way, influence what my country is doing, I talk much more about this country, and what I see as the mistakes we make.
    But you can change what the terrorists do if you are willing to fight them by allowing your country to fight them. Enough of the no profiling, set them all free, discomfort=torture, mantra that only emboldens the terrorists. We need to kill them and/or hurt them until they tell us everything they know.

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Pelosi briefed on waterboarding in '02 [UPDATED]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How is it "behaving badly" to point out that Bush went back on his promise to not raise taxes? The actual tax increases where not the issue, his going back on his word was. Two entirely seperate issues.
    Bush 41 appeased the Left. I guess you missed that vital point.
    He did it to get along with the scum... proven by their behavior.
    They smiled along in the photo op.

    THEN THEY RAISED TAXES.
    (After promising a tax break!)

    Then they used it against 41.
    It's how you folks operate.
    No class.
    No morals.

    If it's not something like this... it's Foley or Craig, while your tax cheats get Cabinet positions.
    Last edited by zimmer; 04-24-09 at 07:29 PM.
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    Re: Pelosi briefed on waterboarding in '02 [UPDATED]

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    But you can change what the terrorists do if you are willing to fight them by allowing your country to fight them. Enough of the no profiling, set them all free, discomfort=torture, mantra that only emboldens the terrorists. We need to kill them and/or hurt them until they tell us everything they know.
    I cannot personally do this though. I can personally work to make my country better.

    Oh, and by the way, I have seen no real evidence that your method works. No country that I can thik of is more severe whan it comes to fighting terrorism than Isreal, and they surely have not beaten terrorism by any stretch of the imagination.

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    Re: Pelosi briefed on waterboarding in '02 [UPDATED]

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Bush appeased the Left. I guess you missed that vital point.
    He did it to get along with the scum... proven by their behavior.
    They smiled along in the photo op.

    THEN THEY RAISED TAXES.
    (After promising a tax break!)

    Then they used it against him.
    It's how you folks operate.
    No class.
    No morals.

    If it's not something like this... it's Foley or Craig, while your tax cheats get Cabinet positions.
    I think I still do not see your point. When "the left" used the "no new taxes" thing against Bush, it had nothing actually to do with his raising taxes directly, it had to do with Bush's trustworthyness. Bush's reasons for raising taxes, and "the left" agreeing with those tax increases are totally irrelevant to the issue "the left" raised.

    On the other hand, I totally agree with you on tax cheats getting cabinet positions.

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    Re: Pelosi briefed on waterboarding in '02 [UPDATED]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I cannot personally do this though. I can personally work to make my country better.

    Oh, and by the way, I have seen no real evidence that your method works. No country that I can thik of is more severe whan it comes to fighting terrorism than Isreal, and they surely have not beaten terrorism by any stretch of the imagination.
    First thing that would make this country better is to make it safe.
    Get control of our borders. Government can't get this fundamental accomplished... yet they want to take on everything they can and then some.
    Get info by infiltrating, eavesdropping on the enemy.
    Get info from locals.
    Financials.

    And beat the living **** out of the terrorist cowards on their perverted battlefield (hospitals, schools, Mosques) battle field.
    They wanted this war... now lets give them so much of what they asked for that they are wrecks... shells... fearful... submissive little bitches.

    That is the foundation that makes it possible for you to "personally work to make my country better."

    When you and the masses are fearful... it seriously hinders work to make America better because you are being denied Liberty.

    As for Israel... peace will be won through force.
    Talks are useless.
    To have peace they have to do what they did with the Egyptians.

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    Last edited by zimmer; 04-24-09 at 07:40 PM.
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