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    Re: Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    That's pretty much the point. You have to add layer after layer of Copernican retrograde as more and more of these perfectly reasonable questions come up.

    Which is why you get all these nutball conspiracy theories about the government and the aliens acting in collusion to keep it hushed, etc..

    Attempting to explain the lack of evidence is by no means actually presenting evidence.
    Yes... but then, absence of proof isnt proof of absence.

    You're attacking the issue with the idea that 'it cannot be, because...' and then ask a question as to why something isn't so, operating under the presumtion that if there WERE aliens, the condition posed in the questions must exist.

    There's any number of those questions and any number of answers to them. Askig them doesn't prove anything.

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    Re: Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Yes... but then, absence of proof isnt proof of absence.
    No, but unless you're asserting that something known to exist was destroyed, you don't have to prove that something doesn't exist -- and you can't anyway.

    You're attacking the issue with the idea that 'it cannot be, because...' and then ask a question as to why something isn't so, operating under the presumtion that if there WERE aliens, the condition posed in the questions must exist.

    There's any number of those questions and any number of answers to them. Askig them doesn't prove anything.
    I'm merely asking the questions which must be answered if the claims are true.
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    Re: Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I think it's rather convenient to give credibility to fantastic claims that don't have a single shred of evidence to back them up.



    UFO sightings were invented by humans too.



    For incidents such as that, what do you think is the more rational explanation: That an alien spaceship crashed in Canada, or that some sort of military vessel crashed? Come on, use a little Occam's Razor here...



    Governments can't even waterboard or wiretap people without getting caught. What makes you think that the world's governments would be able to keep THIS a secret? Why hasn't a UFO ever crashed in some African or Central Asian country with no functional government to engineer a coverup? Funny how these sightings always seem to happen in countries where UFOs are a part of pop culture...



    And I believe that UFO conspiracy theories are howling-at-the-moon lunacy...even moreso than most other conspiracy theories. At least most other conspiracy theories don't presuppose the existence of extraterrestrial visitors for which there is absolutely no evidence.
    The term "UFO" is modern but sightings are not. Even before modern aviation technology, people were seeing weird things in the sky.

    Look, I'm not saying aliens are for sure visiting us or watching us, but I'm open to the possibility. I don't believe in absolutes when it comes to this subject... yet you do, for some reason. Anyway, that's your choice.

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    Re: Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

    Having seen numerous UFO videos over the years, the most amazing thing isn't that intelligent alien life exists elsewhere. It's that they've somehow managed to travel thousands of light years to Earth in a '76 Ford hubcap wobbling from a string.

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    Re: Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    The term "UFO" is modern but sightings are not. Even before modern aviation technology, people were seeing weird things in the sky.
    OK, but that doesn't imply extraterrestrial visitors. That just means that people were seeing weird things in the sky.

    The vast majority of UFO sightings have occurred since UFOs became a part of pop culture in the 1940s...which coincidentally was the same time the US military began developing high-tech space and air vehicles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius
    Look, I'm not saying aliens are for sure visiting us or watching us, but I'm open to the possibility. I don't believe in absolutes when it comes to this subject... yet you do, for some reason. Anyway, that's your choice.
    I don't believe in absolutes on this subject. I would be highly surprised if extraterrestrial life DIDN'T exist. But whether or not it's visiting us is a completely different question. There is not a single shred of evidence for any "close encounters." That puts UFOs in the same category as ghosts, Santa Claus, unicorns, the Loch Ness Monster, or Big Foot: Myths.
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    Re: Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

    I saw an Alien once.

    It was jumping a fence.

    No wait, maybe it was swimming.

    I don't remember, the Government is too busy secretly systematically destroying them.
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    Re: Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Like I said before, it isn't necessarily that he's lying (although he might be). Religious-based delusions are an equally valid explanation.



    If even 0.05% of unicorn sightings were true, then that would mean there are at least hundreds of truthful reports of unicorns.

    Is there any evidence that even 0.05% of UFO reports are true and not related to human activity?



    But...there is no evidence...for any UFO claims. None.
    There certainly is evidence of many civilizations since the beginning of human history of man looking to the stars with the belief of more life out there.

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    Re: Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    There certainly is evidence of many civilizations since the beginning of human history of man looking to the stars with the belief of more life out there.
    The probability of extraterrestrial life has nothing to do with flying saucers or crop circles or alien abductions or close encounters or government coverups or any of the other urban legends associated with UFOs.
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    Re: Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Well, without proof, no kidding proof, it's all crack pot... however, IF there is proof out there, it's time to let it all hang out.
    Come on Vich give this a break, he was freaking astronaut.

    Not everything is crackpot.
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    Re: Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Come on Vich give this a break, he was freaking astronaut.
    There are enough crackpots that it shouldn't be surprising that one of them happened to be an astronaut.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla
    Not everything is crackpot.
    This guy certainly sounds like it. And until he backs up his fantastic claims with solid evidence, I will regard him as such.
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