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    Re: Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    We'll my question about god was really about belief systems. I see no reason to call this astronaut a crack pot when people believe in mythical sky daddies. And ido happen think the possibility of aliens visiting us is much more likely than a mythical god. Terrance McKenna actually proposed something very similiar. In that hallaucigenic mushrooms spores could survive entery through the earth's atmosphere. Possibily this is a way aliens could visit us?
    I think you insulting tone and the use of the term "sky daddies" is highly inappropriate.
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    Re: Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

    There are few, few people I respect more than the steely-eyed missile men of the Apollo program. Each of them is a deep personal hero of mine.

    So this is very disappointing. He might as well jump in bed with the Moon landing deniers.
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    Re: Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    There are few, few people I respect more than the steely-eyed missile men of the Apollo program. Each of them is a deep personal hero of mine.
    I grew up fascinated by the space program and also viewed astronauts as heros. My dad was an Air Force fighter pilot. Unfortunately as I grew into adulthood I came to understand that Air Force pilots, and astronauts, are not necessarily any more immune to odd personal beliefs than the next guy.

    If Mitchell has evidence for aliens visiting earth, or aliens on the moon, let him bring it forward. Otherwise, his history of walking on the moon has zero bearing on any claims he makes regarding this subject.

    Edgar Mitchell has long been interested in esoteric subjects, including paranormal phenomenon. He conducted private ESP experiments with some friends on Earth during his Apollo 14 flight. Later Edgar Mitchell founded the Institute of Noetic Sciences to conduct research into subjects he feels have been neglected by mainstream science, such as human consciousness and psychic phenomenon.

    The recent radio interview is not the first time Edgar Mitchell has claimed that aliens have landed on Earth and that there is a UFO cover up. In 2004 Edgar Mitchell told the St. Petersburg times that aliens have been visiting the Earth for decades and that the government was conducting a campaign of disinformation in order to cover up the truth.
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    Re: Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

    I've always hoped so much that aliens are real, otherwise the universe would be so crushingly empty.

    That's why I think the issue here, aliens, and belief in God is so easily conflated.

    I don't worship aliens, however, to know that humans are literally the only species in existence in the entire universe, would change my views pretty drastically. It would give a lot more credence to religion, which at its most fundamental is theory wherein humans are special and intended.

    I don't think we are and think that there's alien life out there as well, also the product of random universal forces at work.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

    Is there extraterrestrial life? In all likelihood, yes. The universe is so enormous that the chances that we are alone is tiny.

    Are tall white creatures in UFOs regularly visiting the earth, abducting people, drawing pictures in our crops, and leaving no proof of their existence? Of course not. That's just retarded.
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    Re: Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

    Astronaut Edgar Mitchell is but one of many who have seen unidentified objects or activity while in space. Former astronaut and Congressman John Glenn also has talked openly about his experiences and observations of UFO activity.

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    I respect these astronauts, especially the original ones from the early days of the NASA space program. Men of courage and integrity...there would be no reason for them to attempt to deceive the public by falsely claiming to have seen UFOs. I would think that any deception would be to keep quiet about such activities, as NASA and our government may be doing.

    I will not automatically assume that these men are/were lying.
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    Re: Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

    Quote Originally Posted by quatrotritikali View Post
    Astronaut Edgar Mitchell is but one of many who have seen unidentified objects or activity while in space. Former astronaut and Congressman John Glenn also has talked openly about his experiences and observations of UFO activity.

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    I respect these astronauts, especially the original ones from the early days of the NASA space program. Men of courage and integrity...there would be no reason for them to attempt to deceive the public by falsely claiming to have seen UFOs. I would think that any deception would be to keep quiet about such activities, as NASA and our government may be doing.

    I will not automatically assume that these men are/were lying.
    In their particular cases, it may not have anything to do with lying or deception (although in many cases it does). I think a better analogy are the delusional people who truly believe they've talked to God or had some other religious experience. After all, that's essentially what UFO encounters are: Religious experiences.

    There is ZERO evidence of any UFO encounters.
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    Re: Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

    This really is a high profile admission that aliens exist, even though it does not accompany proof. Why would someone with such a distinguished career come forward with this statement? I don't think it's a prestige thing, given how he could be accused of being insane.

    My view is that it is highly probably that aliens exist and that we are visited. If even 0.05% of reports of UFO sightings were true, and were not related to sitings of human activity, then that means there are at least hundreds of truthful reports of alien activity.

    If some of the governments do know about these lifeforms, then the number one reason to not disclose this to the public would be reasons of power. If we all, tomorrow, were given proof that aliens exist and are even here, then it would change the priorities of humanity completely. Who would even care about government power anymore, given that there are so many more wonders in the universe to explore, and much more powerful species than us?

    I'm really curious about the part of his statement where he claims they are here to "take" our role... what could that possibly mean? That humans are being prevented from excelling?

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    Re: Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    This really is a high profile admission that aliens exist, even though it does not accompany proof. Why would someone with such a distinguished career come forward with this statement? I don't think it's a prestige thing, given how he could be accused of being insane.
    Like I said before, it isn't necessarily that he's lying (although he might be). Religious-based delusions are an equally valid explanation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius
    My view is that it is highly probably that aliens exist and that we are visited. If even 0.05% of reports of UFO sightings were true, and were not related to sitings of human activity, then that means there are at least hundreds of truthful reports of alien activity.
    If even 0.05% of unicorn sightings were true, then that would mean there are at least hundreds of truthful reports of unicorns.

    Is there any evidence that even 0.05% of UFO reports are true and not related to human activity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius
    If some of the governments do know about these lifeforms, then the number one reason to not disclose this to the public would be reasons of power. If we all, tomorrow, were given proof that aliens exist and are even here, then it would change the priorities of humanity completely. Who would even care about government power anymore, given that there are so many more wonders in the universe to explore, and much more powerful species than us?
    But...there is no evidence...for any UFO claims. None.
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    Re: Apollo 14 Astronaut: Space Aliens Are Real

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Like I said before, it isn't necessarily that he's lying (although he might be). Religious-based delusions are an equally valid explanation.
    I think it's rather convenient to generalize all testimony as a delusion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    If even 0.05% of unicorn sightings were true, then that would mean there are at least hundreds of truthful reports of unicorns.
    Unicorns were fabricated by humans. Aliens are outside of the human realm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Is there any evidence that even 0.05% of UFO reports are true and not related to human activity?
    I said IF.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    But...there is no evidence...for any UFO claims. None.
    There have been a number of events documented by government, such as the Shag Harbour Incident in Canada, one of the only ones that the public knows about, because there were fishermen on the water when it happened. Whenever there is a major UFO event with tangible evidence, the government immediately moves in to absorb it all before the public has a chance to know what is going on.

    Either way, I believe that the government knows the truth and it is hidden for political purposes and reasons of power.

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