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    Re: Fidel Castro: Obama 'Misinterpreted' Raul's Words

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Glad you're on the same page as those countries.
    It's not as though Bush himself was widely beloved in those circles, aside from homoerotic fantasies about seeing into Putin's soul. Years of tension don't just disappear overnight, just because we finally have a sane president.



    Obama simply doesn't have a back-slapping frat-boy personality. His attitude toward foreign relations seems much more down-to-business. There's nothing wrong with that.



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    I see nothing worthy of response here, as it lacks a coherent point.
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    Re: Fidel Castro: Obama 'Misinterpreted' Raul's Words

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    But wills is not? Lying and claiming the basis for the others "partisanism" is racism?
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    Re: Fidel Castro: Obama 'Misinterpreted' Raul's Words

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Oh I agree with you on that. There was no call for that claim. I saw nothing rhinefires post that indicated racism. However rhinefires post was so full of bull**** that I was able to justify thanking one part of Will's post that addressed it.



    Like me thanking your fist two sentences here?
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    Re: Fidel Castro: Obama 'Misinterpreted' Raul's Words

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Cratered.
    Yes you did.
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    Re: Fidel Castro: Obama 'Misinterpreted' Raul's Words

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Like me thanking your fist two sentences here?
    Rock on homie!

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    Re: Fidel Castro: Obama 'Misinterpreted' Raul's Words

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    The only "first step" anyone needs to take with Castro is to say "go to hell."

    The second step is to give him directions on how to get there.
    This is simply a difference in philosophy between you and I. I believe there is much more strategic benefit to actively seeking good relations with our enemies. A number of posters on this board act like they think that the only posture a U.S. President should take is one of unflinching dominance, projecting nothing but force of will and an unrelenting desire to see the other guy acquiesce.

    That's just plain dumb. Our power is in our ability to project our economic and military will. We don't need to intimidate other world leaders during meetings, stare them down, or outright refuse to speak with them in order maintain our position as a world power. We have "actual power" and nothing Obama is doing when attempting to warm relations with theses countries is eroding that.

    Just because he's not following in the Bush's or Reagan's footsteps is not an indicator that he is wrong in what he is doing. This the mid-60's anymore. Getting Cuba to open to the U.S. to any degree is a good thing because it provides opportunity for our influence to spread there. Obama is doing the right thing in pursuing better relations with these nations.

    Military action isn't always the answer.
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    Re: Fidel Castro: Obama 'Misinterpreted' Raul's Words

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Indeed they will, but in the meantime you don't give them any opportunity on the world stage. As I suggested, send a lesser diplomat to keep the damage to a minimum.
    There is no "damage" being done here except in your mind. You can't articulate to any demonstrable degree what "damage" is being done by Obama's actions. And your strategy of sending lesser diplomats is not the answer. If you are the President and you want to send a clear foreign policy message to enemy heads of state you do it yourself. You don't treat them like lowly pissants, even if that's what they are in comparison.

    Insanity is to continue doing what we''ve done for decades and expect things to somehow turn out differently.
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    Re: Fidel Castro: Obama 'Misinterpreted' Raul's Words

    Our enemies are cashing in on a naive idealistic fool.
    They all know he will give them more.

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    Re: Fidel Castro: Obama 'Misinterpreted' Raul's Words

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Glad you're on the same page as those countries.
    It's not as though Bush himself was widely beloved in those circles, aside from homoerotic fantasies about seeing into Putin's soul. Years of tension don't just disappear overnight, just because we finally have a sane president.
    And it's not as though Bush created the tension, despite "fantasies" of a different type. There are places and people who are going to be opposed to, and at odds with, the United States no matter what.
    It's not "tolerance" if you already approve of what you purport to "tolerate."

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    Re: Fidel Castro: Obama 'Misinterpreted' Raul's Words

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Glad you're on the same page as those countries.
    It's not as though Bush himself was widely beloved in those circles, aside from homoerotic fantasies about seeing into Putin's soul. Years of tension don't just disappear overnight, just because we finally have a sane president.

    Obama simply doesn't have a back-slapping frat-boy personality. His attitude toward foreign relations seems much more down-to-business. There's nothing wrong with that.
    I agree with you. Obama appears to carry a demeanor of professionalism in his meetings with foreign dignitaries, clearly demonstrating that he is not weak as some would claim.

    If he was actually a weak and foolish president as some claim, he would be too damn scared to even begin to deal with the anti-American foreign leaders, let alone talk to them face to face. If he was weak he would just order sanctions and let 'em rot.

    Sadly, some see diplomacy as weak and prefer we keep raising our fists like brutes instead of trying to resolve our differences through dialog.
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