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Venezuela Opposition Leader Rosales Flees to Peru (Update3)

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Actions have costs, and unlike Reagan, who gave oppressed people hope, Obama gives The Oppressed good reason to be even more fearful.

Obama.. The Despot's Best Friend.

Willing to laugh and listen to despots crap all over America, but unable or willing to speak with the Rush Limbaugh, Obama's anointed leader of the opposition.

Despots "yes we can speak with you"... Conservatives... "no chance we will speak with you."

This is the same mentality as during The Clintons years. The Republicans were the enemy... real enemies and threats were outsourced to the UN or not dealt with at all.

Venezuela Opposition Leader Rosales Flees to Peru (Update3) - Bloomberg.com
The crackdown comes as Chavez seeks improved relations with President Barack Obama, whose hand he shook at least three times at last weekend’s Fifth Summit of the Americas.

Republican Senator John Ensign of Nevada said in broadcast comments over the weekend that it was “irresponsible” to be seen “joking” with Chavez. Venezuela is the fourth-biggest supplier of foreign crude oil to the U.S.
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Obama sent a strong message to our real friends in the region when he **** all over Brazil in not signing the trade agreement.

Now with Obama joining the Hugo Chavez Book Club, it really gave Rosales no other option than to flee.

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please list the times while over there where Obama defended or praised our nation.
 
Meh, it seems like Rosales is just exploiting the "tyrant" image propped up by the mainstream media in order to further his own selfish motives. Many Venezuelan politicians have been brought up on corruption charges the past few years, and not all of them have been part of the opposition.
 
GottaHurt said:
Obama sent a strong message to our real friends in the region when he **** all over Brazil in not signing the trade agreement.

Now with Obama joining the Hugo Chavez Book Club, it really gave Rosales no other option than to flee.

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Dare I ask what the link is between Obama shaking Chavez,s hand and Rosales getting done for corruption is? On that note why are we assuming that its beyond the realms of possibility that he's guilty? He particiapted in a coup attempt in the year 2000 so it cetainly wouldnt be his first offence.

The fact that Rosales was allowed to run in elections despite particiapation in this coup demonstrates that zimmers claim that Chavez is a despot is very inaccurate. Which despot allows those who attempt the *violent* overthrow of the government to run in elections? Alternatively which Lennist despot would allow Fox News to be broadcast every day:lol:

Even if we assume for the sake of argument that Chavez is seeking to become a despot then Obama's more conciliatory stance toward Latin America will help prevent this from happening. Chavez wont have the option to use the an external enemy as a pretext for doing so.
 
Khayembii Communique said:
He never was.
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I disagree, so do many others.


President for life, election fraud, people protesting him in the streets. And now this opposition leader fleeing?


spending Venezualan money on american poor in a propaganda attempt instead of feeding his people...


For starters.
 
Red_Dave said:
The fact that Rosales was allowed to run in elections despite particiapation in this coup demonstrates that zimmers claim that Chavez is a despot is very inaccurate. Which despot allows those who attempt the *violent* overthrow of the government to run in elections?
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The despot who knows he's going to win because he counted the votes before the election.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
"From Wikinews, the free news source you can write!"



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But yeah there is another one. No more term limits and questionable elections..... Thats a recipe right there. :lol:
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Well the elections really arent that questionable. The electoral obserbers who were there at the time saw no problems with the election [with the exception of a spannish MP from a party founded by a former member of General Franco's government]. No term limits does not a despot make. A despotic system would be one were Chavez, or his allies, had absolute power. Given that the opossition won many of the local elections this is clearly not the case. Its a very flawed democracy* certainly but by no means a despotic system.

*Not my words but those of "the econmist" democracy index [remember that the economist is a very free-market magazine]
 
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Venezuela is a Fascist Party state very similar to Mussolini's Italy but using the dogma/rhetoric of a socialist/communist blend Chavez likes to call the Bolivarian Revolution.
[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolivarian_Revolution]Bolivarian Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

Its becoming the foundation for his expansionistic rhetoric and "solidarity" with other like minded types in the hempishpere.

He control the courts, the legislator, the police, the governors, the media the supreme court, the military*, etc.. etc..

He has now achieved by vote the legal precedent to run for life.
Chavez will remain in office until killed or he dies from old age.
Just read his life story and it becomes obvious to a blind man his intentions in all this.
He is a Dictator for all intents.
 
zimmer said:
Actions have costs, and unlike Reagan, who gave oppressed people hope
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Yeah, by funding, training and arming terrorists who raped, maimed and murdered thousands of innocent people to topple the governments those innocent civilians democratically elected.

oh wait. You didn't learn that in school did you?

And what evidence is there to suggest that Rosales isn't fleeing for actual, legit corruption charges?

Merely because Chavez is despot doesn't make everyone else suddenly clean.
 
GottaHurt said:
Obama sent a strong message to our real friends in the region when he **** all over Brazil in not signing the trade agreement.

Now with Obama joining the Hugo Chavez Book Club, it really gave Rosales no other option than to flee.

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It is ironic how the US right defends the Venezuelan right, a group of people who ruled Venezuela through so called "elections" for generations and were more corrupt that what is going on in the country at the moment.. well so far any ways. I guess it is true for the right.. 2 wrongs = 1 right.
 
PeteEU said:
It is ironic how the US right defends the Venezuelan right, a group of people who ruled Venezuela through so called "elections" for generations and were more corrupt that what is going on in the country at the moment.. well so far any ways. I guess it is true for the right.. 2 wrongs = 1 right.
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No Holds Barred: Why does Obama smile at dictators? | Columnists | Jerusalem Post
The State Department maintains that Chávez has attacked democratic traditions and has put Venezuelan democracy on life support with unchecked concentration of power, political persecution, and intimidation. Foreign Affairs magazine says that Chávez is a power-hungry dictator with autocratic and megalomaniacal tendencies whose authoritarian vision and policies are a serious threat to his people. In testimony before the US Senate, the South American project director for the Center for Strategic International Studies said that Chavez's government engages in "arresting opposition leaders, torturing some members of the opposition (according to human rights organizations) and encouraging, if not directing, its squads of Bolivarian Circles to beat up members of Congress and intimidate voters-all with impunity."
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Forgot to add he is hostile to the US, and entertains all our enemies.

My guess is he isn't waterboarding.

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PeteEU said:
And so what? Most of the world is in some way hostile to the US thanks to Bush and the Republican party. The Swiss have an embassy in Tehran, does that mean the Swiss are the US enemies? I believe the Brits have an embassy there too.
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Hostility born from irrationality. Pure ignorance.
It's the same pack of dung you folks opened against Reagan.
And then had to eat by the truck load.

Another feces feast is coming your way... open wide... say "ahhhhhhh", and don't forget to say "thank you".

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zimmer said:
Hostility born from irrationality. Pure ignorance.
It's the same pack of dung you folks opened against Reagan.
And then had to eat by the truck load.

Another feces feast is coming your way... open wide... say "ahhhhhhh", and don't forget to say "thank you".

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:rofl talk about living in a different universe.
 
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