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    Re: Venezuela Opposition Leader Rosales Flees to Peru (Update3)

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    It is ironic how the US right defends the Venezuelan right, a group of people who ruled Venezuela through so called "elections" for generations and were more corrupt that what is going on in the country at the moment.. well so far any ways. I guess it is true for the right.. 2 wrongs = 1 right.
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    The State Department maintains that Chávez has attacked democratic traditions and has put Venezuelan democracy on life support with unchecked concentration of power, political persecution, and intimidation. Foreign Affairs magazine says that Chávez is a power-hungry dictator with autocratic and megalomaniacal tendencies whose authoritarian vision and policies are a serious threat to his people. In testimony before the US Senate, the South American project director for the Center for Strategic International Studies said that Chavez's government engages in "arresting opposition leaders, torturing some members of the opposition (according to human rights organizations) and encouraging, if not directing, its squads of Bolivarian Circles to beat up members of Congress and intimidate voters-all with impunity."
    Forgot to add he is hostile to the US, and entertains all our enemies.

    My guess is he isn't waterboarding.

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    Re: Venezuela Opposition Leader Rosales Flees to Peru (Update3)

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    So the US Congress is simply a congress of despots then?




    wrong time to ask that question.



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    Re: Venezuela Opposition Leader Rosales Flees to Peru (Update3)

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    Forgot to add he is hostile to the US, and entertains all our enemies.

    My guess is he isn't waterboarding.

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    And so what? Most of the world is in some way hostile to the US thanks to Bush and the Republican party. The Swiss have an embassy in Tehran, does that mean the Swiss are the US enemies? I believe the Brits have an embassy there too.
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    Re: Venezuela Opposition Leader Rosales Flees to Peru (Update3)

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And so what? Most of the world is in some way hostile to the US thanks to Bush and the Republican party. The Swiss have an embassy in Tehran, does that mean the Swiss are the US enemies? I believe the Brits have an embassy there too.
    Hostility born from irrationality. Pure ignorance.
    It's the same pack of dung you folks opened against Reagan.
    And then had to eat by the truck load.

    Another feces feast is coming your way... open wide... say "ahhhhhhh", and don't forget to say "thank you".

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    Re: Venezuela Opposition Leader Rosales Flees to Peru (Update3)

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Hostility born from irrationality. Pure ignorance.
    It's the same pack of dung you folks opened against Reagan.
    And then had to eat by the truck load.

    Another feces feast is coming your way... open wide... say "ahhhhhhh", and don't forget to say "thank you".

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    talk about living in a different universe.
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    Re: Venezuela Opposition Leader Rosales Flees to Peru (Update3)

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    talk about living in a different universe.
    I spent tons of time in Europe when Reagan was President.
    You folks were as equally hostile... and clueless back then.

    You should be happy, and you are,... we have a president that dumps on the US, smiles with our enemies, and won't speak with the opposition at home.

    You might say we have Jacques Chirac as head of the US... but there are some things I doubt even Chirac would do that Obama has.



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    Re: Venezuela Opposition Leader Rosales Flees to Peru (Update3)

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I spent tons of time in Europe when Reagan was President.
    You folks were as equally hostile... and clueless back then.
    So you are claiming that Europeans "hated" America just as much under Reagan as it did under Bush? And you are calling us clueless?

    You should be happy, and you are,... we have a president that dumps on the US, smiles with our enemies, and won't speak with the opposition at home.
    You mean you had in Bush. How can it be Obama's fault that the US right has turned into the party NO! regardless of the topic?

    You might say we have Jacques Chirac as head of the US... but there are some things I doubt even Chirac would do that Obama has.
    Haha, your view of Jacques Chirac is clueless.

    And congratulations, you could not defend your views on Chavez, so you had to change the subject and turn it into a partisan crapfest so to kill the thread.. /clap.
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    Re: Venezuela Opposition Leader Rosales Flees to Peru (Update3)

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Actions have costs, and unlike Reagan, who gave oppressed people hope, Obama gives The Oppressed good reason to be even more fearful.

    Obama.. The Despot's Best Friend.

    Willing to laugh and listen to despots crap all over America, but unable or willing to speak with the Rush Limbaugh, Obama's anointed leader of the opposition.

    Despots "yes we can speak with you"... Conservatives... "no chance we will speak with you."


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    When one person controls the microphone, it isn't a debate, and Rush cannot operate any other way...
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    Re: Venezuela Opposition Leader Rosales Flees to Peru (Update3)

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Rush bin Limbaugh a debater? more like a masterbater, he does not know how to debate. All he knows how to do is lambast, bombast, foam at the mouth, etc.
    If he was offered a chance to do a REAL and properly moderated debate, he would come up with excuses to beg off.
    When one person controls the microphone, it isn't a debate, and Rush cannot operate any other way...


    Funny, that sounds like you.
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    Re: Venezuela Opposition Leader Rosales Flees to Peru (Update3)

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So you are claiming that Europeans "hated" America just as much under Reagan as it did under Bush?
    I was an adult, early in my business career at the time and remember it well.
    You folks were off the charts.

    And you are calling us clueless?
    Totally clueless.


    You mean you had in Bush. How can it be Obama's fault that the US right has turned into the party NO! regardless of the topic?
    Please, slow down and try this again in English.

    Haha, your view of Jacques Chirac is clueless.
    In that one line you could decipher my entire understanding of Ch-Iraq?
    OK.

    He was as hostile to America as Obama is now... Chirac had the grace to do it during a war... with his butt buddy Gerhard Schroeder. Obama did it too. Three peas in a pod. Socialists... Obama is actually more like Schroeder... an unapologetic socialist and opportunist.

    As Chirac told some of New Europe..."They missed a great opportunity to shut up" on their stance on Iraq... and added these views could affect their membership chances.
    Sound a little like Obama telling Republicans on the hill not to listen to Rush.

    Chirac and Obama are similar in too many ways.
    From their taste for the expensive... and their hostility to America.

    Fiscally... Chirac is more conservative, but as a Frenchy... that's not saying much about Chirac and says masses about Obama.

    And congratulations, you could not defend your views on Chavez, so you had to change the subject and turn it into a partisan crapfest so to kill the thread.
    No, I simply answered to something that was posted.
    But nice try nonetheless.

    Chavez is a thug... you might like him... might defend him... might even love him. Wouldn't put any of these past you.

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