One has to wonder if you can read.
My post was to show that Mr. V's stance is insane. It is inherently not my fault that you either cannot comprehend the written word or are deliberately ignoring context merely to attempt to ding me for your past argumentative failures. Either way, anyone reading your post and mine will know that what I said was in reply to Mr. V's insane argument and that I was only posting it to show that such a stance is not acceptable.
Does this make FDR a Nazi?
In some ways yes. While he did round up Japanese Americans which was wrong, he did not execute them like Hitler did. But make no mistake, and if you deliberately ignore this, I will highlight your dishonest, FDR acted terribly, immorally and against the ideals of this country when he ordered the interment of its own citizens for nothing other then genetics.
That's why waterboarding worked.
Except that it doesn't.
The Captain that fired a round next the head of an Iraqi terrorists saved his troops lives; considered torture... proving it works.
Explain to me how getting bad information "works."
To categorically say people will say anything is pure BS.
Torture works.
Since when where you a torture expert? Last I checked, those who actually understand the subject (hint: not you on virtually everything) say otherwise.
That is what professional analysts are for.
You don't really believe this is done willy-nilly do you.
And how do they make such judgements? How do we know that what people tortured say is actually legit when we know for a fact that people say anything to stop the pain?
There might be times a simple interview won't work, and not fast enough; some means of torture, like waterboarding, shouldn't be taken off the table.
I take it you haven't even bothered to read the report? Not surprising.
It's not a torture all proposition, it is one tactic in a greater strategy.
By such reasoning, all torture is not torture. Zyphlin summed this up quite nicely.
I'll even quote him:
"So for example...shoving bamboo shoots under peoples finger nails for the specific purpose to cause them pain and agony is torture. But shoving bamboo shoots under peoples finger nails because you have a reasonable belief that they have important information and you want them to give it to you is interrogation?"
And now you oppose this?
ROTFLMFAO
You, Mr. Social Engineer finally found some government program you would be against expanding.
Your lying is not appreciated.
Pretty funny, as this is the typical leftist world view; National Security and Defense is to be shrunk... while government social engineering schemes are to be expanded.
Too ****ing funny.
It's pretty funny how you call this list the "Agenda of the Left"
http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/46880-leftist-following-list.html
Pretend all you want I'm a leftist, unless you want to call the GOP leftist. Which I'd actually be okay with.
1. you think torture doesn't work.
2. you give a blanket assessment that using it all the time will produce crap; perhaps, but torture would be used in specific situations.
Incorrect. What I stated was that Mr. V's logic deduces that we should torture everyone as someone could have some information about some event in the future. That the mere possibility of information and an attack is grounds for mass torture.
It would help if you actually read what people write for a change rather than assume whatever you want.
3. you neglect to note that some information accompanied by torture can produce the intended result.
Did I say that torture has given absolutely no good information?
No. I didn't. You again are lying.
One has to wonder if you are capable of replying without the use of lies.