By such a measure, we should use everything and anything to possibly get any information to prevent any potential attack. That includes rounding up all people of Arabic and Persian descent. Bugging all places of Muslim worship (not to mention liberal universities). Suspending the Constitution and installing a 1984 Big Brother system to ensure our safety.
I see you like FDR.
I'd rather suffer a terrorist attack than watch our country go Fascist in a Nazi like style. I don't know about you.
Does this make FDR a Nazi?
The problem with torture, as already stated, is that people undergoing torture say anything to stop the pain.
That's why waterboarding worked.
The Captain that fired a round next the head of an Iraqi terrorists saved his troops lives; considered torture... proving it works.
To categorically say people will say anything is pure BS.
Torture works.
And the more bad information we get, the less assets and time we have to allocate on the actual good bits of relevant information.
That is what professional analysts are for.
You don't really believe this is done willy-nilly do you.
If you have some information, and can leverage this to get more.
The report stated that the vast majority of relevant, good intel came from simple interviews without any torture.
There might be times a simple interview won't work, and not fast enough; some means of torture, like waterboarding, shouldn't be taken off the table.
If we had tortured all of them, we'd likely have droves of worthless information that would sap our resources.
It's not a torture all proposition, it is one tactic in a greater strategy.
Essentially, to do what you want, we'd have to vastly expand our government.
And now you oppose this?
ROTFLMFAO
You, Mr. Social Engineer finally found some government program you would be against expanding.
Pretty funny, as this is the typical leftist world view; National Security and Defense is to be shrunk... while government social engineering schemes are to be expanded.
Too ****ing funny.
Care to rethink your position and change it to one that is ideologically consistent with previous statements you have made or acknowledge that your ideological system is inherently flawed and contradictory?
Your position is tragically flawed because:
1. you think torture doesn't work.
2. you give a blanket assessment that using it all the time will produce crap; perhaps, but torture would be used in specific situations.
3. you neglect to note that some information accompanied by torture can produce the intended result.
Torture works. It breaks people... some folks it breaks even before anything is done... just the thought or belief it can be used.
Eliminating it eliminates a tremendous psychological weapon.
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